First Team Sub
Mar 2, 2011, 12:36 PM
Location: West Yorkshire
Team(s): Bradford City
Post #1 of 3
Apologies if this is covered elsewhere but I've just read that Nelson and Northwich Villa (formerly Woodley FC) have applied to join the North West Counties league for next season.
Glad to see Nelson have applied, as their ground is a firm favourite of mine and I always found the time for at least one midweek visit to Nelson, before their sudden demise.
The following article is from the NWCFL website:
Mar 2, 2011 Step 7 Feeder Leagues Review Meeting
A meeting was held a couple of weeks ago with members of the North West Joint Liaison Committee, involving representatives from the Vodkat League Management Committee and each of the Step 7 feeder leagues.
The meeting was convened to discuss a number of issues surrounding promotion and relegation between the Vodkat League and the feeder leagues, and a summary of the main issues discussed is as follows.
Applications from new clubs
Three applications were received by the Vodkat League from clubs wishing to join the League in season 2011/12 - Nelson, Northwich Villa and West Didsbury & Chorlton.
It should be noted that none of these three clubs is in contention for finishing in a promotion position in a Step 7 league. As no clubs in contention have applied, the vacancies in the Vodkat League can be filled by other Clubs subject to FA Leagues Committee approval.
The representatives of the Step 7 Leagues present at the meeting supported the application of Nelson, subject to FA Financial Regulation approval.
Their application has to be approved by the FA Leagues Committee after certain legal entity issues have been settled with the FA Financial Regulation Department. During season 2009/10, while competing in the Vodkat League, the Club had changed legal entity from Nelson F.C. Limited to Nelson Football Club Limited without the approval of The Football Association, Lancashire FA or the League.
Jeff Walton, Chairman of the Cheshire Association Football League, confirmed that the Cheshire League supported the application of Northwich Villa. The club, formerly known as Woodley FC, play in the Cheshire League First Division.
However, the application of West Didsbury & Chorlton had been withdrawn by the time the meeting took place. The Manchester League objected to a Club from their Second Division being promoted, but if the Club gained promotion into their Step 7 Division, i.e. the Premier Division, the Manchester League would support a future application from West Didsbury & Chorlton.
Promotion and relegation between steps 6 and 7
There will be no relegation from the Vodkat League at the end of season 2010/11, due to insufficient numbers in the Step 6 Division (Vodkat League Division One).
For relegation to take place, a minimum number of 20 Clubs in the Step 6 Division is required, with 3 Step 7 Clubs qualifying for promotion.
League Chairman Dave Tomlinson explained: "The FA's Step 5/6 Focus Group have published a proposal that relegation from Step 6 Leagues should take place when a League has 20 Clubs and not 22 as per League Rules.
"To that end, we advised the Step 7 leagues that the Vodkat League Management Committee would consider putting a proposal to the Member Clubs at the AGM in June, to alter the constitution of the NWCFL to 22 Clubs in the Premier Division and 20 Clubs in the First Division.
"However, despite this representing a concession on the part of our league to try and accommodate the issues faced by Step 7 clubs and leagues, the representatives of our step 7 feeder leagues all objected to our league having a 22 Club Premier Division. Their collective decision was that they would not support any promotion and relegation agreement until such time the NWCFL altered its constitution to two Divisions of 20 Clubs.
"It was suggested that a 2-3 year plan of action to reduce the NWCFL Premier Division to 20 Clubs should be agreed before any agreement could be signed. Although there was some sympathy shown to us in regard to us losing Clubs due to the restructure of the National League System, none the less the view was firmly expressed that the feeder leagues would not support any promotion agreement until the NWCFL reduced to 2 Divisions of 20 Clubs.
"While natural wastage, and clubs folding due to financial problems, may give us the opportunity to reduce the number of clubs in the Premier Division, it has to be considered unlikely that our members clubs would accept a proposal to reduce the Premier Division to 20 Clubs by extra clubs being relegated from the Premier Division to Division One.
"We are very disappointed that, despite offering a concession to the feeder leagues, they are not willing to support our promotion and relegation proposals until we reduce our constitution further to just 40 clubs.
"In the past ten years only two champion clubs have been promoted to our league - Kirkham & Wesham and Wigan Robin Park - while in the meantime we have lost many more as part of the National Leagues restructuring. Given the circumstances it is nothing short of miraculous that we actually have 40 clubs in our league at the moment.
"We now have applications from two clubs - Nelson and Northwich Villa - which will hopefully result in us being able to present two more clubs at the AGM in June for our clubs to elect to the league, bringing us up to 42 clubs for season 2011/12.
"The financial implications for a club at Step 7 looking to make a move to Step 6 are significant, and therefore we accept that in the current economic climate, it is more difficult than ever for a club to generate the finances required to upgrade facilities to the level required. Therefore, assuming the two applications are approved by our clubs, we would be prepared to accept that 42 clubs is a reasonable number for our league to have for the foreseeable future.
"In circumstances such as these, compromises have to be made in order to achieve a satisfactory outcome for all parties, but it appears that our step 7 colleagues are looking for us to make sacrifices and reduce the number of clubs in our league, rather than participate in a process that would eventually lead to a situation of promotion and relegation between our Step 6 Division One and their own leagues.
"We will continue to work on developing a solution that meets the requirements of all parties, but for now, it does appear that the possibility of a situation where promotion and relegation exists between our league and our feeder leagues is further away than ever."
First Team Star
Mar 2, 2011, 1:19 PM
Team(s): Fleet, Aldershot, Chelsea
Post #2 of 3
When this meeting took place the situation at Rossendale had not developed. So, by accident, there is scenerio where they could get the 20 team Premier Division. If Champion club goes up and no team is relegated into North West Counties, if Rossendale confirm fold or expelled, then sticking with the normal two team relegation, will leave Premier with 20 (or 1 down and 1 up depending on ground grading of sides at top of First Division).
Junior Team Regular
Mar 2, 2011, 11:49 PM
Location: Preston, Lancs
Post #3 of 3
When this meeting took place the situation at Rossendale had not developed. So, by accident, there is scenerio where they could get the 20 team Premier Division. If Champion club goes up and no team is relegated into North West Counties, if Rossendale confirm fold or expelled, then sticking with the normal two team relegation, will leave Premier with 20 (or 1 down and 1 up depending on ground grading of sides at top of First Division).This would be the perfect scenario (except for Rossendale fans of course), but in all likelihood Rossendale will finish this season in a relegation spot - this is a team who have only won 2 league games thus far, and the teams directly above them all have games in hand. Therefore it would be the First Division that loses a team, leaving a 21-member Premier and a 19-member First Division set-up...