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leohoenig
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See the first story
I can confirm that I have seen the player concerned, coming on as a substitute forward.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/...cup_2010/8720323.stm



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Does this mean forwards may only play as forwards and will not be allowed to defend at corners?


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Rugby Town used a goalkeeper up front a few times towards the end of the season just finished. He even scored a couple of goals including a late, late winner. Thanks God FIFA don't watch over the Southern Football League for it is occurrences like this that make our world great!



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St. Paul's had a central defender as GK twice in early season after regular one broke a finger at the Island Games

What's more he did not concede a goal (0-0 & 3-0, both v his old team Jersey Scottish)


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The Mexican goalkeeper Campos who often played up front when his club side needed an extra striker, was also told he could not come on as a striker in the World Cup.
He was also famous for his loud keepr's shirts, which he designed himself.



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The logic, if you can call it that, of this decision, is supported by having all 12 non-starters as available substitutes, and having 3 keepers (max) in the squad.

Mind you, there's always the chance that keeper A is injured in training, keeper B is sent off in the first group match, and keeper C gets injured facing the resulting penalty. Who then goes in goal to finish that match, and starts in goal for game 2 ? Seems FIFA might be a little too inflexible. Lots of what ifs here.


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I don't think there is any ban on outfield players playing in goal if a keeper is sent off and all subs have been used.
Incidentally what happens if a player taking a penalty in a shoot-out is given a second booking for 'feinting' to deceive the keeper?
This new application to the rules is supposed to be brought in for the World Cup. Will the penalty be forfeited or will another player be allowed to take it?



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I don't think there is any ban on outfield players playing in goal if a keeper is sent off and all subs have been used.
Incidentally what happens if a player taking a penalty in a shoot-out is given a second booking for 'feinting' to deceive the keeper?
This new application to the rules is supposed to be brought in for the World Cup. Will the penalty be forfeited or will another player be allowed to take it?



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Personally, I don't think FIFA should be allowed to dictate who can play in which position.

If a team wants to play its two reserve goalkeepers as its forward line then that's up to them IMO.



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I think this has been brought in because the squad size has increased from 22 to 23. (ie each position with an understudy but having 3 keepers)


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Maybe, but why not just allow teams to pick whichever 22/23 players they want. There's no dictation of the number of forwards or defenders required in each squad so why dictate how many keepers each team is allowed?

Sounds like one of those pointless rules that FIFA is so fond of.



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DavetheGlassboy
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I don't think there is any ban on outfield players playing in goal if a keeper is sent off and all subs have been used.
Incidentally what happens if a player taking a penalty in a shoot-out is given a second booking for 'feinting' to deceive the keeper?
This new application to the rules is supposed to be brought in for the World Cup. Will the penalty be forfeited or will another player be allowed to take it?



First I've heard of this rule. Ronaldo's buggeredCool


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I think it's a clear cut rule that all squads must have three keepers.

I suppose the FIFA thinking is that it might devalue the world cup if an outfield player had to go in goal.


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Personally, I don't think FIFA should be allowed to dictate who can play in which position.

If a team wants to play its two reserve goalkeepers as its forward line then that's up to them IMO.


I agree with you Dave. If a country wants to pick an extra striker instead of a 3rd goalkeeper that's up to them. If the 2 keepers get injured then they lose out. I have to say, having seen a few games where outfield players go in goal (including David Platt for Villa in 1990 when they lost 0-5 at Arsenal, Platty only conceding 1) they don't embarrass themselves - it's hardly shooting fish in a barrel! I can't see the need for such a restriction.

 
 


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