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Here is the draw

http://full-time.thefa.com/...ue4856192/144806.doc



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Any Spartan South Midlands information would be appreciated from any local experts out there as it will no doubt be one of the few times a programme is put together for a Jersey fixture so the sooner an outline is drafted the better.


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The officers of the league are very nice people, go to www.ssmfl.org details of contacts are on there.


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Thank you


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I must confess I've never seen any games in this competition, and am even less likely to than 'serious' groundhoppers, as I follow a specific club first & foremost.
But this cup appears to grow in stature each time it's played for, so may try to go out of my way to watch a local(ish) match or two in it.
What are peoples' opinions of it, from those who have seen mathces in it?
And when do the dates & venues tend to get announced?



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I have only seen Jsy v Gsy last season, prob Wessex Lge standard.

Prel Rd due by Apr 11th so dates will prob be the two or three weeks beforehand.


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Mishi - Having seen quite a number of games in this competition (including last year’s final) I can highly recommend it. It is generally taken seriously by the leagues involved so they prepare properly. Most of the games I have seen have been very entertaining with a standard probably at least equivalent to a decent level 5 team.
Surprise results are not uncommon as some leagues are unable to select from all their players because those who have been "on contract" with any club at any time are ineligible for this competition.
The FA website shows the draw and fixture dates (under the FA Cup section) but the individual league websites tend to have the match details earlier.


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I take quite an interest in it and therefore bug our secretary for details on a regular basis so the SAL will have info pretty quickly. I am more than happy to supply it via this site too though.

I see that from the next edition the holders are only exempt to Round 1. Common sense I think - I could never understand the bye to Round 2 previously - although I wouldn't have minded had they allowed that luxury...

One thing I'd like to see different is the scheduling. The 08-08 and 09-10 competitions both play in the Preliminary Round in the first season of the two. As so many leagues seem unwilling to play midweek we lost 5 Saturdays last time which caused a few fixture headaches for the top teams in the SAL. It would make more sense to me if they spread the rounds out across the two seasons a bit more. Maybe having Prelim, Round 1 and Round 2 in 08-09 with the remainder in 09-10. Anyone know why they don't do that? I can only think it's so that the team that starts the campaign is more likely to be there to finish it, rather than having players move on along the way.


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Draw this year is only split North/South rather than the previous East/West as well


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Jersey v South Midlands, Sat 28th March 2pm at Springfield


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Can anyone clear up a bit of confusion for me? The FA site lists the following fixtures in Round 1:

2. Lancashire & Cheshire Amateur League v Anglian Combination (at Padiham)
4. Lancashire & Cheshire Amateur League v Birmingham & District Amateur League (at Maine Road FC)

One of the Lancs teams should be Lancashire Amateur League but I cannot find out which. In case it occurs to you too, neither of these ties is a Prelim Round tie. There is already a 2 and a 4 in there with different sides.

The L&CAL site doesn't seem to mention the NLS Cup;
The Anglian Comb copies the FA site;
The B&DAL site doesn't list anything about it;
The LAL site mentions they have a bye in the First Round (the Preliminary Round actually) but doesn't say who they are playing in Round 2.

The venues don't give anything away. Neither play in the leagues they are hosting and with one in Lancs and one in Manchester there isn't much to go on on location either.

I'm entering them into the SAL site so any ideas welcome!


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ORIGINAL F.A. VERSION OF DRAW



FA NATIONAL LEAGUE SYSTEM CUP
2009/2010
FIRST ROUND DRAW
TIES TO BE COMPLTED BY 26 SEPTEMBER 2009



1 Humber Premier League v West Cheshire League

2 Lancashire Amateur League v Anglian Combination

3 Cheshire Football League v Yorkshire Old Boys League

4 Lancashire & Cheshire Amateur League v Birmingham & District Amateur League

5 Northamptonshire Combination v West Riding County Amateur League

6 Teesside Football League v Cambridgeshire County League

7 Northern Football Alliance v Liverpool County Premier League

8 Midland Football Combination (Div 1) v Isle of Man League

9 Dorset Premier League v Sussex County League (Div 3)

10 Bedfordshire Football League v Amateur Football Combination

11 Worthing & District League v Essex Olympian League

12 Hertfordshire County Senior League v Essex & Suffolk Border League

13 Wiltshire Football League v Jersey Football Combination

14 Northampton Town League v Guernsey Senior County League

15 Southern Amateur League (Holders) v Gloucestershire County League

16 Somerset County League v Reading Football League
or Middlesex County League


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Thanks John.


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This article on the LandC website confirms John's details as correct. http://www.landc.co.uk/viewarticle.aspx?id=680

The venues are fairly indicative too. Padiham in very much in LAL territory, but well outside the LandC's area. Nevertheless, you would think the FA would have spotted and corrected this error by now.


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FA NATIONAL LEAGUE SYSTEM CUP
2009/2010

FIRST ROUND DRAW
TIES TO BE COMPLTED BY 26 SEPTEMBER 2009



1 Humber Premier League v West Cheshire League (at North Ferriby Utd FC - Sat 19th Sep - 2.00)

2 Lancashire Amateur League v Anglian Combination (at Padiham FC - Sat 19th Sep - 3.00)

3 Cheshire Football League v Yorkshire Old Boys League (at Northwich Victoria FC - Sat 19th Sep - 3.00)

4 Lancashire & Cheshire Amateur League v Birmingham & District Amateur League (at Maine Road FC - Wed 16th Sep - 7.30)

5 Northamptonshire Combination v West Riding County Amateur League (at Harborough Town FC - Sat 19th Sep - 3.00)

6 Teesside Football League v Cambridgeshire County League (at Norton & Stockton Ancients FC - Sat 26th Sep - 2.00)

7 Northern Football Alliance v Liverpool County Premier League (at Whitley Bay FC - Sat 19th Sep - 3.00)

8 Midland Football Combination (Div 1) v Isle of Man League (at West Midlands Police FC - Sat 26th Sep - 7.30)

9 Dorset Premier League v Sussex County League (Div 3) (at Portland Utd FC - Sat 19th Sep - 3.00)

10 Bedfordshire Football League v Amateur Football Combination (at Biggleswade Town FC - Wed 23rd Sep - 7.30)

11 Worthing & District League v Essex Olympian League (at Lancing FC - Sat 26th Sep - 2.30)

12 Hertfordshire County Senior League v Essex & Suffolk Border League (at Wormley Rovers FC - Sat 26th Sep - 3.00)

13 Wiltshire Football League v Jersey Football Combination (at Swindon Supermarine FC - Sat 19th Sep - 3.00)

14 Northampton Town League v Guernsey Senior County League (at Cogenoe Utd FC - Sat 19th Sep - 2.00)

15 Southern Amateur League (Holders) v Gloucestershire County League (at London Lions FC - Sat 19th Sep - 3.00)

16 Somerset County League v Reading Football League (at Mangotsfield Utd FC - Sat 19th Sep - 3.00)


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Anyone have any knowledge of the Gloucs County League? I am doing the programme (only 1 x A4 folder I'm afraid) for the SAL game and I'm trying to find some history. I will be in touch with the league at some point but I thought some of you knowledgeable chaps might be able to give me a head start?

Cheers


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The league has a small history page on their web site at http://countyleague.co.uk/about/about.html

Similarly Wikipedia has a brief history on it's pages too. http://en.wikipedia.org/...rshire_County_League

Both may be of use when preparing your programme.


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Sat Aug 29 Dandara Jersey Football Combination Team Manager Jon Welsh has announced the following squad of 16 for the National League Systems Cup match againt Wiltshire on 19th September 2009 at Swindon Supermarine 3p.m. Jon will be assisted by Kevin McCarthy, Steve Martin & Dave Walsh.
Jimmy Styles - Trinity Craig Fletcher - Jersey Scottish James Scott - Jersey Scottish Stuart Andre - St. Paul's Scott Devlin - St. Paul's Russell Le Feuvre - Grouville Jack Cannon - St. Paul's Dave Watson - St. Paul's Chris Andrews - Jersey Wanderers Luke Watson - St. Paul's David Le Roux - Trinity Sam Twoerk - St. Peter Ross Crick - St. Paul's Craig Russell - St. Paul's John-Paul Martyn - St. Paul's Craig Leitch - St. Paul's


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Has anyone told Swindon Supermarine and Leamington about this match because they are due to play a Southern league Premier Division match on the same day!!


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Sat Aug 29 Dandara Jersey Football Combination Team Manager Jon Welsh has announced the following squad of 16 for the National League Systems Cup match againt Wiltshire on 19th September 2009 at Swindon Supermarine 3p.m. Jon will be assisted by Kevin McCarthy, Steve Martin & Dave Walsh.
Jimmy Styles - Trinity Craig Fletcher - Jersey Scottish James Scott - Jersey Scottish Stuart Andre - St. Paul's Scott Devlin - St. Paul's Russell Le Feuvre - Grouville Jack Cannon - St. Paul's Dave Watson - St. Paul's Chris Andrews - Jersey Wanderers Luke Watson - St. Paul's David Le Roux - Trinity Sam Twoerk - St. Peter Ross Crick - St. Paul's Craig Russell - St. Paul's John-Paul Martyn - St. Paul's Craig Leitch - St. Paul's


Five out of the sixteen were not in Jersey's Island Games winning squad, although I assume one is a goalkeeper because of Andrew Bird's injury. I think one or two who played in Aland were based off island and will therefore not be eligible, but any particular reason for so many changes to a winning squad that you know of John?

Edited to say that I have just had the thought that the eligibility rules for this competition which rule out any player who has ever been on contract may have forced some of the changes.

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Out from the Island Games squad are -
Andrew Bird (injured), Michael Weir (plays for Maritimo in Portugal), Jay Reid, James Queree (left for U.S. college), James Hayward, Ben Gallichan and
Mark Lucas. Bird, Queree & Lucas would have been likely starters.

In come Craig Fletcher (GK, for Bird), James Scott (teacher so could not travel to Aland), Scott Devlin (not able to go to Aland), Craig Leitch (top scorer in
2007/8 who returned in New Year 2009 after travelling but carrying quite a bit of extra weight) plus newcomer "Sam" Twoerk.

This squad is as good, if not better, than the Aland team.

It seems match may be in the Supermarine rugby/football "complex" not on SSFC pitch itself.


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Out from the Island Games squad are -
Andrew Bird (injured), Michael Weir (plays for Maritimo in Portugal), Jay Reid, James Queree (left for U.S. college), James Hayward, Ben Gallichan and
Mark Lucas. Bird, Queree & Lucas would have been likely starters.

In come Craig Fletcher (GK, for Bird), James Scott (teacher so could not travel to Aland), Scott Devlin (not able to go to Aland), Craig Leitch (top scorer in
2007/8 who returned in New Year 2009 after travelling but carrying quite a bit of extra weight) plus newcomer "Sam" Twoerk.

This squad is as good, if not better, than the Aland team.

It seems match may be in the Supermarine rugby/football "complex" not on SSFC pitch itself.



That may well be the New College ground which is the other side of the large clubhouse in the complex, it is railed, with dug-outs and has lights. It would also mean the teams from the Rep game could use the said large clubhouse as Supermarine have their own inside their ground.


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So prob meets FANLS minimum standards requirements


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Round 2 Draw

West Riding County Amateur League vs Yorkshire Old Boys League (14/11/09 at Campion FC, 1.30 pm)

Reading Football League vs Hertfordshire Senior County League (14/11/09 at Newbury FC, 2.00 pm)

Guernsey Senior County League vs Southern Amateur Football League (21/11/09 at Corbet Field, 2.00 pm)

Liverpool County Premier League vs Isle of Man League (5/12/09 at Liverpool County FA, 2.30 pm)

Lancashire & Cheshire Amateur League vs Cambridgeshire County League (12/12/09 at TBA, 2.00 pm)

Lancashire Amateur League vs Humber Premier League (12/12/09 at TBA, 2.00 pm)

Bedfordshire Football League vs Dorset Premier League (12/12/09 at TBA, 2.00 pm)

Essex Olympian League vs Jersey Football Combination (12/12/09 at AFC Hornchurch, 3.00 pm)


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2nd round results

Lancashire Amateur League 2 – 3 West Cheshire League 09/12/2009
Liverpool County Premier League 2 – 1 Isle of Man League 05/12/2009
Lancashire & Cheshire Amateur League 0 – 5 Cambridgeshire County League 5/12/2009
Bedfordshire Football League 1 – 2 Dorset Premier League 28/11/2009
Guernsey Senior County League 3 – 2 Southern Amateur Football League 21/11/2009
West Riding County Amateur League 0 – 3 Yorkshire Old Boys League 14/11/2009
Reading Football League 2 - 3 Hertfordshire Senior County League 12/12/2009
Essex Olympian League 0 - 1 Jersey Football Combination 12/12/09


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