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Russell
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Who were the all-time closest senior club to central London? I would nominate Summerstown, which is an area behind Euston and Kings Cross. They were quite a big club before the war. I am not sure where exactly they played though.


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Chelsea Mariners of the Spartan League ?


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How should we define the centre of London? I believe that it is usually taken to be the cross at Charing Cross.

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Russell, I hope that you're not a Londoner, because you don't know your London Neighbourhoods. From wikipedia:
Summerstown is a district in southwest London.
Summerstown lies east of Wimbledon south of Earlsfield, west of Tooting and north of Collier's Wood. The district is bisected by the main A217 road and bordered by the River Wandle.

not to be confused with (although Russell obviously did ! )

Somers Town, named after the Somers family who owned the land, is an area of London south of Camden Town. Historically, the locality known as Somers Town was the whole of the triangular space between the Hampstead, Pancras, and Euston Roads. Modern Somers Town is generally regarded as being the area bounded by Euston Road, Eversholt Street, Crowndale Road, Pancras Road and the railway approaches to St Pancras Station.


Russell
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You are correct - it is Somers Town. Just checked on A to Z. So maybe the old club were based near Wimbledon then.


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Not got a map at work, but would throw the following into the equation:

Vauxhall - Corinthian-Casuals played here from 1950-1963

Shepherd's Bush is only just outside the circle line

Tufnell Park - home of the Casuals, Tufnell Park, London Caledonians and Islington Corinthians at various times when the land lords were not getting out of their prams.

Paddington played in the Parthenon League in the 1950's



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Russell
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Must be Paddington FC. Where did they play?


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sorry I can not help you there - no idea about their ground



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Russell
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Paddington is only a mile from Oxford Street so must be the winner. I wonder what sort of a ground they had.


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Just a guess here, but I feel that Paddington F.C.'s ground was either (1) on top of a large block of flats with home and away fans needing to use separate elevators, or (2) located in seldom used part of Paddington station near the customer service area and not near the British Rail Union tea rooms.


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One of my old football books states that when Summerstown FC folded Wealdstone purchased the stand from their Garratt Lane ground and re-erected it at Lower Mead. I imagine many people know that already but I couldn't resist the opportunity of posting after another Frickley supporter.


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I didn't know that there were any Frickley supporters in southern English places like Horsham. I bought my last motorbike on Garratt Lane in Tooting. Occasionally I would travel on that scenic route from Tooting Broadway station up Garratt Lane to Wandsworth town hall. Never saw any footy grounds on the way though.


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There is a sports complex within the blocks of flats etc. where Paddington Tennis Club play. I think it has always been a tennis club but is remarkably large and well tucked away. Easily big enough for a football pitch or two.


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Or maybe the site where Paddington Rec is now?


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I once read that the Imperial yard fixture on the north side of Trafalgar Square was considered to be the centre of London. The National Gallery occupies the north side of the square. In the stone under the balustrade, you can see the Imperial Standards of Length (1 foot, 2 feet, 1 yard etc.).(www.aboutbritain.com/TrafalgarSquare.htm) After all if you are measuring distances you need to have your units defined. Wikipedia supports the idea of the Cross at Charing Cross. However St. Paul's Cathedral also has a claim to be the official centre for road mileage purposes. "That original position of the cross is recognised by modern convention[1] as the centre of London for the purpose of indicating distances by road in favour of other previous measurement points (such as St. Paul's Cathedral which remains as the root of the English and Welsh part of the Great Britain road numbering scheme)."


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Honourable Artillery Company - now in the Amateur Football Combination - used to play at Armoury House in Moorgate but you may not count them as 'senior'.


Russell
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Yes HAC were very central but not a senior club. The most central ground is Westminster School's, but again not a senior club.


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1st Coldstream Guards (southern League 1896/97) were billeted at Wellington Barracks on Birdcage Walk, but I don't think they played there. Anyone know where they played? Windsor rings a bell for some reason.


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Dulwich Hamlet ( and Fisher) are probably the nearest current senior club to the centre of London.



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Dulwich Hamlet ( and Fisher) are probably the nearest current senior club to the centre of London.


Chelsea?




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Jun 16, 2008, 9:44 PM

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Chelsea are not a club, just a bunch of overpaid tarts



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Chelsea are not a club, just a bunch of overpaid tarts


Not that you're making any judgements or anything Tongue


robcavallini
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i would not dream of doing that ;)



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Vincent Square was used regularly by Old Westminsters, who were presumably Senior, having reached the FA Cup QF twice and competed in the LSC. I believe their bigger games were played at Kennington Oval.

 
 


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