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Oct 11, 2017, 9:56 AM
a lesson for those in the UK that still will not accept our own recent referendum result.
Although I don't want another Euro Referendum I've no problem with people campaigning for a second Euro poll, after all if a Referendum result was taken to be binding for all time then we'd all be supposed to accept the result of the 1975 Referendum on joining what became the EU.
I'd have thought peaceful campaigning by Remainers for another Euro Referendum or SNP supporters for another Scottish Independence poll, is democracy in action.
Something we do rather better than the Spanish.
Utter nonsense. You cannot keep having referendums on the same issue every couple of years.
Referendums are not supposed to be binding for all time. That's a very black and white way of looking at things! Referendums are there to capture the views and opinions of the people at snapshots in time.
The population that votes on a particular issue needs to have....
- lived with their original decision to see if it was right
- changed - i.e. over half that voted will have died and been replaced by a new generation.
...before that issue gets voted on again.
You cannot just keep issuing referendums to by and large the same group of people, the same populace until you get the result you want from them!
Referendums are SERIOUS.
They should be binding for a generation at least, probably two – 40-50 years.
Campaigners for new referendums on the EU and Scottish Independence are belittling what a referendum is. It’s not an opinion poll or a little questionnaire. It is a generational view and the only way to collect one. Campaigners are ultimately thick and cannot accept the opinion of the majority.
Take the Scottish independence referendum – it was said in pretty much every speech “This is a ONCE in a lifetime chance”, and “This chance only comes around once in every generation, the majority of you will not get another chance to make Scotland independent” etc etc. These phrases were heavily, HEAVILY drilled into the Scottish people, even by Nicola Sturgeon and Alex Salmond.
So Sturgeon talking about another one so soon, and all these people talking about another EU referendum so soon, should just be treated as unintelligent, be treated as bullies, be treated as people who cannot accept the will of this current population and the rule of law and democracy. It’s also extremely narrow minded, ignorant and condescending of these campaigners to think that the people that voted the opposite way to them, just need to be “educated” better so that they start seeing things the correct “way” and change their vote next time.
Regardless of their intelligence, their views, their interest in politics, their understanding of what their vote really means, EVERYONE is entitled to vote as they see fit and that’s the end of it. That’s the referendum result, and it’s the outcome of that that impacts the next generation for the next 30-50 years, not just the next couple of years!
You can’t just come out of an organisation like the EU and re-enter it, back and forth back and forth, every couple of years. If you vote in, you join for a considerable amount of time, if you vote to leave, you vote to leave for a considerable amount of time.
Same goes for independence. Scotland can’t vote for independence, leave the UK, then the people not happy with it campaign and succeed in getting another vote on it, 2-5 years later, only for the vote to say that Scotland wants to give up its independence and re-join the UK. And so it gives up its sovereignty and re-joins the UK. But then the people not happy with that 5 years down the line campaign and succeed in getting Scotland to re-leave the UK. And so on and so forth. Utter ridiculous nonsense. Scotland made its “Once in a lifetime” decision and there should be no other chance for at least a 40-50 years!
All that’s lacking is acceptance….rant over!
(This post was edited by Sarumio on Oct 11, 2017, 10:03 AM)