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The BBC has published a cast photo for the remake of Are You Being Served which is be part of the BBC celebration of 60 years of tv sitcoms. Other remakes will include Porrisge and Up Pompeii. I'm not usually one for remakes, Reggie Perrin was very disappointing, although Still Open All Hours and Danger Mouse have worked well and haven't changed from the original format.

These new remakes should be one-offs and it will be good to see how they compare to the original.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37008782



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I have doubts about re-making such brilliant classics.


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They're using the original scripts so if they were funny before, they will be now, current taste notwithstanding


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I'm not usually one for remakes, Reggie Perrin was very disappointing, although Still Open All Hours and Danger Mouse have worked well and haven't changed from the original format.


Not a remake exactly, but one sitcom that definitely did benefit from a change of format from its original was 'Whatever Happened To The Likely Lads'.

And TheWavendonian swears that 'Going Straight' (the follow-on from 'Porridge') is one of his all-time favourite sitcoms (though personally I'm not that convinced!)


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They're using the original scripts so if they were funny before, they will be now, current taste notwithstanding

Some are using the originals, some are new scripts

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...s/2016/sitcom-season



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I'm not usually one for remakes, Reggie Perrin was very disappointing, although Still Open All Hours and Danger Mouse have worked well and haven't changed from the original format.


Not a remake exactly, but one sitcom that definitely did benefit from a change of format from its original was 'Whatever Happened To The Likely Lads'.

And TheWavendonian swears that 'Going Straight' (the follow-on from 'Porridge') is one of his all-time favourite sitcoms (though personally I'm not that convinced!)


Whatever happened to the Likely Lads, although not a remake was a continuation of the original series, portraying the lives of Bob & Terry 5 years on. This would be a sitcom that would be ideal for an update, as in where they are today and how their lives panned out since the the 1970's) with the original cast but sadly will never happen.

Going Straight is another excellent series. Not sure how far you could take this, once Fletch was free from prison there is not a lot you could do with the character.

Steptoe & Son would be ideal for a one off remake, providing an original script was used and the Liver Birds would be relevant today given the current housing issues younger people have these days.

I think a Hancock Half Hour as also been remade with an original script.



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All remakes should be banned, that includes all TV series! Mad
Try coming up with something new! Oh sorry, they have, and in general it's normally ****!
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All remakes should be banned, that includes all TV series!


I think I would agree with that. Just show the originals again.


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All remakes should be banned, that includes all TV series!


I think I would agree with that. Just show the originals again.

There are a couple of channels that show most of the above mentioned sitcoms all the time and i'm another who has no interest in watching remakes.


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They're using the original scripts so if they were funny before, they will be now, current taste notwithstanding



Using original scripts is fine, BUT, the delivery is just as important.

The skill of timing and working well together such as Messrs Barker and Jason.


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Unfortunately, a lot of old tapes at the Beeb etc were wiped so it's either remakes or nothing.

On radio they've been re-running a series of Hancock Half Hour remakes with Kevin McNally voicing Hancock. I've enjoyed them.

Personally, I'd like to see a re-run of "It aint half hot Mum!" the PC reaction would be as fun as the shows themselves.


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The one off remake of Porridge will be about Fletch's Grandson who is in prison for cyber crimes, so will be a new script.



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Cyber crimes? That reminds me of the joke about Saudi Arabia (or similar countries) where they cut off your head or your hands for certain crimes. If you commit computer crime, they cut off your electricity!


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Personally, I'd like to see a re-run of "It aint half hot Mum!" the PC reaction would be as fun as the shows themselves.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y2WIOa7CEI

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Personally, I'd like to see a re-run of "It aint half hot Mum!" the PC reaction would be as fun as the shows themselves.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y2WIOa7CEI

Enjoy! Wink


'Love thy neighbour' would be even better.



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Yesterday and Drama are both showing Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads at the moment. Like Dad's Army on a Saturday night on BBC2 (in my view) they are still funny no matter how many times you watch them.


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Yesterday and Drama are both showing Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads at the moment. Like Dad's Army on a Saturday night on BBC2 (in my view) they are still funny no matter how many times you watch them.

I happened to catch a bit of one of those "I know things were different back then but even so how on earth did these things ever get made" progs a while back.

Along with the usual suspects Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads was given a slot for Bob and Terry's remarks about schoolgirls. So I can't see it on BBC2 any time soon unfortunately.



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Yesterday and Drama are both showing Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads at the moment. Like Dad's Army on a Saturday night on BBC2 (in my view) they are still funny no matter how many times you watch them.

I happened to catch a bit of one of those "I know things were different back then but even so how on earth did these things ever get made" progs a while back.

Along with the usual suspects Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads was given a slot for Bob and Terry's remarks about schoolgirls. So I can't see it on BBC2 any time soon unfortunately.

I watched it last night and they were asked to leave a boozer by the landlord who called them a couple of fairies. Never get away with that sort of thing these days unless of course in sainsburys in Hackney!!


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There are still comedies today that don't seem that PC, I watched Man Down (which I quite enjoy but would do so more without out all the swearing) and that is very near the PC mark at times.

It's a cross between the Inbetweeners, Time Team and Grange Hill.


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There will be a new series of Still Game which isn't PC at all.



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I watched the 2 most recent remakes, Are You Being Served and Porridge. The first was ok for a one of remake. Roy Barrowclough portrayed Mr Grainger very well and Matthew Horne's role of the young Mr Grace worked well. I wouldn't like a new series though.

Porridge saw Nigel Norman Fletcher, played by Kevin Bishop, inside for cyber crimes. The whole episode worked well. it was written by the original writers Dick Clement and Ian La Frenais. There was one character from the original series, now sharing a cell with Fletcher. I think this would work as a series due to the quality of the writing of Dick Clement and Ian La Frenais.



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The latest BBC sitcom remake has been shown. This was Till Death Us Do Part. (BBC Four)) This wouldn't be made for today's PC viewing audience due to the content., even this remake would be seen by some as unacceptable The remake worked well and Lizzie Roper played Dandy Nichols as Elsie Garnett very well. Simon Days portrayal of Alf Garnett lacked Warren Mitchell's cockney edge although the script was well written by original writer Johnny Speight.

I forgot to mention that this was an original script from a lost episode and not a new script.



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With Goodnight Sweetheart tonight at 9 on BBC1 followed by Young Hyacinth.


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Goodnight Sweetheart is a new episode set in 1962, it is 17 years since the series finished, so makes sense being 1962 (17 years after the end of the war), The original cast will return, both women from the latter 3 series and again written by the original writers.



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I've enjoyed them all. There is a Hancock's Half Hour to come, any more?


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One of my favourites



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There is a a remake of a lost Steptoe & Son, "A Winters Tale", probably to air on Sept 15. This episode is supposedly lost but it does exist, I have seen it.



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Two more watched, Goodnight Sweetheart and Young Hyacinth. The former continued from the original series, except it is was set in 1962, just after the release of Gary's own compositions "Love Me Do". He is reunited with his first wife Yvonne and a very fat Ron "Victor McGuire", too many burgers me thinks. This remake could have done without the audience laughter. There are lots of posts on social media sites wanting a new series, so BBC take note. Overall it was a good comedy outing for this remake.

Young Hyacinth saw the 4 sisters, trying to be dragged up the social scale by a young Hyacinth, very well played by Kerry Howard. Roy Clarke is just a great writer and this was just another superb script. A possible candidate for a series to see how they 4 sisters, Hyacinth, Daisy, Gloria and Violet lives pan out into how we saw them on Keeping Up Appearances.

Next up is a remake of a Hancock's Half Hour.



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The ending on Goodnight Sweetheart left the door wide openSly for a new series and that's maybe what was beind it, lets hope so and all the original cast was a major plus.


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The ending on Goodnight Sweetheart left the door wide openSly for a new series and that's maybe what was behind it, lets hope so and all the original cast was a major plus.


Not the original cast but the cast that finished the series. Michelle Holmes and Dirva Kerwin were the original wives. Thought "Reg Deadman" was as good as ever he did not seemed to have aged.

Quite liked Goodnight Sweetheart, Young Hyacinth was OK but did not like Till Death though not a fan of Simon Day.


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I would look forward to A new series



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Young Hyacinth saw the 4 sisters, trying to be dragged up the social scale by a young Hyacinth, very well played by Kerry Howard. Roy Clarke is just a great writer and this was just another superb script. A possible candidate for a series to see how they 4 sisters, Hyacinth, Daisy, Gloria and Violet lives pan out into how we saw them on Keeping Up Appearances.



I missed it but will see it on catch-up.

I've been watching the re-runs oif the original series on free-sat and absolutely love it.

Remember the 'randy' major who appeared occasionally, played by Peter Cellier ??. Well - He lives in my home town. We occasionally chat in the supermarket whilst shopping.


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Who was the actor who played emmett



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Who was the actor who played emmett


David Griffin.


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Who was the actor who played emmett


David Griffin.


Who was also the replacement camp manager in Hi-De-Hi, series 6 onward.



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From what I've seen

Are You Being Served? - very good, a good copy of the original. Especially impressive with a new writer. I really hope they revive this.

Porridge - not as good as the above, but funny and very watchable.

Young Hyacinth - Hyacinth's mannerisms were very good but it wasn't funny, watchable and well made.

Goodnight Sweetheart - again very good and a new series would be welcome.



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I've watched the latest offering from the BBC sitcom series. this was Hancock's Half Hour, a remake of a 1955 script called "The New Neighbour". I wasn't a fan of Hancock, being before my time is probably the reason for that, and I have only seen a few clips of his shows, but I did enjoy this remake. Kevin McNally as Hancock, Robin Sebastian as Kenneth Williams and Jon Culshaw as Sid James were all played well. Sid James is a hard character to emulate so well done John Culshaw. It took a while for me to figure out that Katy Wix was playing Hatti Jaques and I just couldn't get past Katy as Daisy from Not Going Out. I will have to find some original Hancock shows.



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The third programme in the Lost Sitcom season has been aired. This was Steptoe & Son in "A Winter's Tale". Although the original was wiped by the BBC it does exist and has been restored, and as I have mentioned previously, I have seen the original. The remake follows the script and is performed almost identically to the original except for the opening sequence and one part later in the show which was changed, probably due to the remake being being staged in a theatre in front of a live audience. This change is very minor and is just prop placement.

Jeff Rawle plays Albert, which he tries to get close to how Wilfrid Brambell played him. To me he just didn't have that quite have the raw rough old Steptoe mannerism that Wilfrid had.

Ed Coleman plays Harold and he fell well short of portraying Harry H Corbett. His timing and boyish excitment was missing and he couldn't do the Harold Steptoe laugh, he didn't even try.

Overall the episode was enjoyable and performed well in a live studio environment.



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Off tack but great to see Red Dwarf back. Best sicence fiction programme ever!.


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I'm a big Red Dwarf fan and the new episode was just as funny as the previous episodes. I'm looking forward to the rest of series 11 and also series 12.



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3 million years in future and a joke about Mars Bars and Scotland. And the bit about what the lady would or would not do in the speakeasy. Bit near the knuckles showing nipples.


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Bit near the knuckles showing nipples.


An unexpected evolution of the female anatomy over those 3 million years


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An unexpected evolution of the female anatomy over those 3 million years


It was Kryten.


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The BBC have commissioned a new series of Porridge



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The BBC have commissioned a new series of Porridge

Porridge alone and none of the others? If so i wonder how they came to that decision because imo it was far from the best of these programmes.


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The BBC have commissioned a new series of Porridge

Porridge alone and none of the others? If so i wonder how they came to that decision because imo it was far from the best of these programmes.


Maybe others will be announced if and when the BBC and various parties have completed negotiations. I would like a new series of Goodnight Sweetheart. One of the new comedies that was aired, called Motherland, will also get a new series. I didn't see this comedy and will see if it is still available on iPlayer.



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Good to see Still Game back and being primetime all over British Isles a hidden gem if you have not discovered it.

Love the Kryten quote about F.I.F.A this week on Red Dwarf.

Third series of the brilliant Count Arthur Strong coming soon. A number 4 with no sausage for me.

Josh on BBC3 is OK if only for the guest spots, Tasmin Outhweight as a Cougar / MILF and her referring to Sausage and Hash Brown . Jack Dee is very good in it.


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I'm a big fan of Still Game. good to see it back with all the regular cast. Shame Pete the Jakey didn't live to be part of the new series.



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So pleased to see W1A is back, I think it's absolutely brilliant, Hugh Bonneville is excellent and Dave Tennents voice overs are great. Not everyone's cup of tea I'm sure.