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steve walker
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I can't get the previous thread to update in the index. No idea why.
So here is a new one. The two old threads are still there and searchable, nothing has been lost.
Please do not take your inspiration from the House of Commons... keep discussion civil and respectful.

I would like this thread to be informative rather than argumentative. Obviously there are different points of view but please express them without denegrating anyone who has a different opinion to your own.
Most of the arguments on the old threads just go round and round in circles and are completely pointless. If you oppose what someone says please don't think it's your duty to post a response even if you have nothing new to say. Let people read the thread and they will make up their own minds, that is far more powerful, you are not going to change the mind of the poster you are arguing with.
Please don't post links or images as a post unless you express an opinion to go with them. If we want that will stick to Facebook or Twitter.
Thanks.... Steve


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Will Boris throw the DUP under the bus, and does it matter if he does?


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Will Boris throw the DUP under the bus, and does it matter if he does?



All that really matters to Boris is securing their 10 votes in any upcoming parliamentary divisions!


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Will Boris throw the DUP under the bus, and does it matter if he does?


Boris canít afford to throw the DUP under a bus - he needs their votes. Also, a number of ERG Tories will link their support to DUP position.


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"I will never create a border down the Irish sea" says man creating border down the Irish sea.


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Will Boris throw the DUP under the bus, and does it matter if he does?



All that really matters to Boris is securing their 10 votes in any upcoming parliamentary divisions!


Everyone has their price. In the DUP's case about £10 billion of UK taxpayers' money


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"I will never create a border down the Irish sea" says man creating border down the Irish sea.


But according to remainers, Boris wasnít serious about getting a deal.

Now he has a deal, they need to criticise him for it.

Shame it wonít get through Parliament though.


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Documents for information.

Withdrawal Agreement November 2018

Political Declaration November 2018

Clarification Political Declaration March 2019

Modifications Withdrawal Agreement October 2019

Political Declaration October 2019

(This post was edited by hawkwind on Oct 17, 2019, 12:55 PM)


007Dale
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Junker has said there will be no extension.

It really is Noel Edmonds time for Parliament...


derekn
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But it's not his decision, it's up to the 27 member countries.


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Junker has said there will be no extension.

It really is Noel Edmonds time for Parliament...


Do you mean his suicide attempt or his prostate cancer?

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Yatesman
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"I will never create a border down the Irish sea" says man creating border down the Irish sea.


He's changed his mind ......... One of the classic signs of a higher intelligence.

I would like to say that the LieDumbs showed the same virtue when they decided to increase Tuition Fees when they pledged to Never increase Tuition Fees and when they voted for Austerity when they pledged to never facilitate Austerity but I can't.......It was just the craven lust forand pursuit of power for it's own sake that caused the LieDumbs to totally renege on their promises.

At least Boris has altered the nature of the Irish Sea Border to better facilitate a cleaner Brexit!


Yatesman
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Will Boris throw the DUP under the bus, and does it matter if he does?



All that really matters to Boris is securing their 10 votes in any upcoming parliamentary divisions!


Everyone has their price. In the DUP's case about £10 billion of UK taxpayers' money


I've not heard that but I do know the divorce bill is now a realistic £33 billion not the £89 billion the Remainers wanted the UK to pay.

Within that context, if NI ( not the DUP) gets £10 billion that's money well spent.


jon b
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Johnson is a shallow thinker and congenital liar. He's been sacked from at least two jobs for lying.

Having said that, he's fortunate in the poor quality of the leaders of the opposition parties. Corbyn is even more utterly unfit to be PM than Johnson, Swinson is out of her depth and Blackford is a windbag.

Saturday could be a complete farce.

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Is anyone else getting an advert for a Romanian politician under the last posting in this thread (or should that be Tharead)?Smile



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Saturday could be a complete farce.

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leohoenig
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Saturday could be a complete farce.

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Good to see some accurate prediction here!

And so, Johnson is now insisting that the law does not compel him to obey the law.



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kirby knitters
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Good to see some accurate prediction here!

And so, Johnson is now insisting that the law does not compel him to obey the law.

Just deliver on the result of the referendum!! The public are sick of it, and so are the EU.


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Just deliver on the result of the referendum!! The public are sick of it, and so are the EU.


Johnson comes back with a deal. Presents no economic assessment, does his best to prevent parliament from scrutinising and parliament quite rightly says "hold on".

You would take more care buying a used car than Johnson wanted parliament to take over his new worse deal.

The public may be sick of it, but that is no reason for parliament to abrogate its responsiblilities to the nation.


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So what happens now IF he goes to the EU asking for an extension and they refuse?


007Dale
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So what happens now IF he goes to the EU asking for an extension and they refuse?


We leave without a deal on the 31st October.

And Letwin looks like an idiot as we could have had a deal.


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Yatesman
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Just deliver on the result of the referendum!! The public are sick of it, and so are the EU.


Johnson comes back with a deal. Presents no economic assessment, does his best to prevent parliament from scrutinising and parliament quite rightly says "hold on".

You would take more care buying a used car than Johnson wanted parliament to take over his new worse deal.

The public may be sick of it, but that is no reason for parliament to abrogate its responsiblilities to the nation.


Like Parliament will make a fair and reasoned assessment............That is like Wishing for Unicorns!

I don't see how a deal that gives the UK more freedom from the EU than May's deal is a worse deal.

Parliament's most important responsibility to the nation is to uphold Democracy by delivering on the result of a national plebiscite in a timely fashion......Epic Fail on that score.

Time for a GE !


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Adds precisely Zilch to the discussion........Nothing new there!


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Adds precisely Zilch to the discussion........Nothing new there!


Shall I explain it to you?

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