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Bantam Cymraeg
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Increased to 22 teams -

Anstey Nomads
Arnold Town
Ashby Ivanhoe
Aylestone Park
Barrow Town
Belper United (from Central Midlands League)
Birstall United (from Leicester Senior League)
Blaby & Whetstone
Borrowash Victoria
Dunkirk (relegated from Midland League)
Ellistown & Ibstock United
Gedling MW
Graham St Prims
Greenwood Meadows
Holbrook Sports
Holwell Sports
Kimberley MW
Radcliffe Olympic
South Normanton Athletic
St Andrew's
Stapenhill
West Bridgford (from Notts Senior League)

The league loses Radford, promoted to the Midland League. St Andrew's weren't promoted due to ground grading issues.


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http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/gedlingminerswelfare/news/emcl-increased-to-22-teams-from-next-season-1614771.html

which means the projection of stapenhill moving to MFL 1 is out of the window.

reprieve for Pelsall again?



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Belper United or Hucknall Town.
Belper need to win their final game Tuesday to gain promotion


windydcfc
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http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/gedlingminerswelfare/news/emcl-increased-to-22-teams-from-next-season-1614771.html

which means the projection of stapenhill moving to MFL 1 is out of the window.

reprieve for Pelsall again?

The FA have placed Bardon Hill in the MFL1. It appears that the FA have done very little lateral movements across steps 5/6. The FA seems to want to place teams that are relegated from steps 4/5 into the created spaces & not move 'better fitting' clubs. North Greenford Utd is a great example of this.


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http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/gedlingminerswelfare/news/emcl-increased-to-22-teams-from-next-season-1614771.html

which means the projection of stapenhill moving to MFL 1 is out of the window.

reprieve for Pelsall again? ..................................................................................................................................................... Why would the fact that Stapenhill are not coming to MFL 1 affect the relegation of Pelsall Villa? As things stand Southam and Pelsall are relegated to Division Two and are replaced by Alvis and Chelmsley Town according to the rules, anything else is supposition until clubs are informed otherwise at the AGM. That is what my club have been told.



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http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/gedlingminerswelfare/news/emcl-increased-to-22-teams-from-next-season-1614771.html

which means the projection of stapenhill moving to MFL 1 is out of the window.

reprieve for Pelsall again? ..................................................................................................................................................... Why would the fact that Stapenhill are not coming to MFL 1 affect the relegation of Pelsall Villa? As things stand Southam and Pelsall are relegated to Division Two and are replaced by Alvis and Chelmsley Town according to the rules, anything else is supposition until clubs are informed otherwise at the AGM. That is what my club have been told.


Too many people reading into things that were never there or ever likely to be (again!)


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Why would the fact that Stapenhill are not coming to MFL 1 affect the relegation of Pelsall Villa? As things stand Southam and Pelsall are relegated to Division Two and are replaced by Alvis and Chelmsley Town according to the rules, anything else is supposition until clubs are informed otherwise at the AGM. That is what my club have been told.



I was speculating based on the 'projections' that Bardon Hill would go back into EMCL, Stapenhill were 'projected' to move across from EMCL and Pilks would resign from the league, leaving the MFL short.

of course, everything is supposition and nothing is guaranteed until after any leagues AGM, but if we didn't speculate it sorts of renders the Restructuring Discussion part of this message board completely useless and we might as well just wait for the results of all leagues AGMs.



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GRIFFON
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Which is just what I do, but then I am just a silly old duffer who prefers to leave any supposition in my head!Laugh
Obviously not being Mystic Megs or having the advantage of hindsight we can't legislate for such as the Pilkington thing which makes any supposition useless which is why I wait for actual information which is one of the benefits of this wonderful website as they are always first on the ball.


kivo
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Step 5 division for 17/18?


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Step 5 division for 17/18?

maybe at some point in the next few years.

would they give a number of years grace for clubs to get up to the appropriate ground grading a la Essex?



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Step 5 division for 17/18?

maybe at some point in the next few years.

would they give a number of years grace for clubs to get up to the appropriate ground grading a la Essex?

It all depends on what the FA classifies as 'the East Midlands'. If they include the southern half of Lincolnshire. Then I think that they will take existing step 5 clubs from the UCL, NCEL & the MFL. I think there's about 17 clubs at step 5 already in what could be classified as the East Midlands. If they want to reduce all the league's below step 3 to 20 clubs. Then this is doable, but a bit of shunting around will have to be done.


windydcfc
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St Andrews appeal is being heard on the 13/06/16


Roader
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Step 5 division for 17/18?

maybe at some point in the next few years.

would they give a number of years grace for clubs to get up to the appropriate ground grading a la Essex?

It all depends on what the FA classifies as 'the East Midlands'. If they include the southern half of Lincolnshire. Then I think that they will take existing step 5 clubs from the UCL, NCEL & the MFL. I think there's about 17 clubs at step 5 already in what could be classified as the East Midlands. If they want to reduce all the league's below step 3 to 20 clubs. Then this is doable, but a bit of shunting around will have to be done.


Why would they take all the existing clubs from the step 5 leagues they play in at present. Surely it would be an opportunity for clubs in step six in the Midland League that reside in the East Midlands to progress which they find difficult at the moment with the promotion as it is to the MFL Step 5. There are clearly sides in the UCL Step 5 that would struggle to survive in the MFL step six. Look at results in the cup competitions. Any restructure needs to look at how the East Midlands teams do in their respective Step 6 divisions next season along with the infrastructure involved.


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windydcfc
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Step 5 division for 17/18?

maybe at some point in the next few years.

would they give a number of years grace for clubs to get up to the appropriate ground grading a la Essex?

It all depends on what the FA classifies as 'the East Midlands'. If they include the southern half of Lincolnshire. Then I think that they will take existing step 5 clubs from the UCL, NCEL & the MFL. I think there's about 17 clubs at step 5 already in what could be classified as the East Midlands. If they want to reduce all the league's below step 3 to 20 clubs. Then this is doable, but a bit of shunting around will have to be done.


Why would they take all the existing clubs from the step 5 leagues they play in at present. Surely it would be an opportunity for clubs in step six in the Midland League that reside in the East Midlands to progress which they find difficult at the moment with the promotion as it is to the MFL Step 5. There are clearly sides in the UCL Step 5 that would struggle to survive in the MFL step six. Look at results in the cup competitions. Any restructure needs to look at how the East Midlands teams do in their respective Step 6 divisions next season along with the infrastructure involved.

I think the FA will create an East Midlands league at step 5, which stretches from somewhere near the M1 all the way to the coast. The FA will not create an East Midlands league at step 5, that mirrors the same issues as the CML. Those issues are that it overlaps other leagues. So I strongly believe that they'll create a league that would probably take 6 clubs from the NCEL, 6 clubs from the MFL & 6 clubs from the UCL. With probably a southern boundary from Leicester to Boston. The FA allegedly want to make 20 teams per division below step 3. This would make it easier to create the East Midlands league, but I'm doubtful that it'll happen at the same time as the Midlands league at step 3/4.


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Can I assume that someone's pumping money into stapenhill this season?


kirby knitters
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Can I assume that someone's pumping money into stapenhill this season?

A club that gets off to a decent start isn't necessarily throwing cash around.


shimtoan
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Can I assume that someone's pumping money into stapenhill this season?

A club that gets off to a decent start isn't necessarily throwing cash around.

I wholeheartedly agree.

I heard pre-season that we have the largest wage budget in the league. If that's true then nobody's paying much at all



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I can vouch that Stapenhill are not paying ridiculous money nor do we have a rich man pumping money in.
We are playing very well so far but by no means unbeatable as results have shown.
Steve Hart enjoys playing for the club as its on his doorstep and a lot of his friends also play, sometimes its not just the money that players play for!
I've said on other forums that I don't believe any side in the EMCL has a massive budget this year which makes for a very interesting league as anyone from 10/11 clubs will fancy their chances of winning the league.


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I can vouch that Stapenhill are not paying ridiculous money nor do we have a rich man pumping money in.
We are playing very well so far but by no means unbeatable as results have shown.
Steve Hart enjoys playing for the club as its on his doorstep and a lot of his friends also play, sometimes its not just the money that players play for!
I've said on other forums that I don't believe any side in the EMCL has a massive budget this year which makes for a very interesting league as anyone from 10/11 clubs will fancy their chances of winning the league.

it'll be down to 3 or 4 by April. I reckon there'll be at least half a dozen promotion applicants, possibly double figures if some early risers keep it up



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I can vouch that Stapenhill are not paying ridiculous money nor do we have a rich man pumping money in.
We are playing very well so far but by no means unbeatable as results have shown.
Steve Hart enjoys playing for the club as its on his doorstep and a lot of his friends also play, sometimes its not just the money that players play for!
I've said on other forums that I don't believe any side in the EMCL has a massive budget this year which makes for a very interesting league as anyone from 10/11 clubs will fancy their chances of winning the league.

it'll be down to 3 or 4 by April. I reckon there'll be at least half a dozen promotion applicants, possibly double figures if some early risers keep it up

Who would you say are favourites? South Normanton Athletic?


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I can vouch that Stapenhill are not paying ridiculous money nor do we have a rich man pumping money in.
We are playing very well so far but by no means unbeatable as results have shown.
Steve Hart enjoys playing for the club as its on his doorstep and a lot of his friends also play, sometimes its not just the money that players play for!
I've said on other forums that I don't believe any side in the EMCL has a massive budget this year which makes for a very interesting league as anyone from 10/11 clubs will fancy their chances of winning the league.

Steve Hart has always had something of a reputation of going where the money is but now playing locally good luck to him. Clubs in the EMCL paying money? Blaby are still at it but not in the way that some would have you believe.


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To be fair I think a lot of clubs watched the Bardon Hill situation and decided its not worth chucking money at it to come tumbling back down again.
I can guarantee that we take more in gate receipts over a season than we pay out so make of that what you will based on our attendances!
A lot of clubs in our league will pay a bit but nothing like what clubs in the past have paid in this league.


Also as a side note for anybody that thinks we are chucking loads of cash at it this year of our starting 11 9 of them were at the club last season and majority the year before when we finished 12th and 16th.
Sometimes teams just click and have a little bit of luck.
We are playing some good stuff though but its early days and usually its about 15 games in before you get a better idea of how the season will play out.


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mmm not sure about that take Hart away from your team and you'd finish where you did before.


Signing one of the best (if not the best) striker at this level is the reason why you are near the top.


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Not denying having a top striker helps us to get to where we are currently but the only thing missing over last couple of seasons was consistency.
We beat the champions in each of last two years but consistently lost to sides lower than us.
Its a long old season so time will tell who finishes where in the end but we are enjoying having positive results so far and are not getting too carried away.
Just nice to see goals as well!


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Not denying having a top striker helps us to get to where we are currently but the only thing missing over last couple of seasons was consistency.
We beat the champions in each of last two years but consistently lost to sides lower than us.
Its a long old season so time will tell who finishes where in the end but we are enjoying having positive results so far and are not getting too carried away.
Just nice to see goals as well!

tomorrow night will be interesting. Stapenhill v Radcliffe - 2 clubs that have scored loads but have also shipped a lot given their positions in the table



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