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Isaac
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People need to start accepting we on the start of the process of going out of the Eu, remain need to shut up


Why should anyone have to shut up about something they think is wrong? Would you have shut up about wanting to leave if remain had won?


We've heard all the arguments for and against over and over again, we've had the referendum and we all know what the outcome was, what more is there to say?

Of course those who desperately wanted to stay in the EU do have the option of emigrating.................bon voyageCool


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People need to start accepting we on the start of the process of going out of the Eu, remain need to shut up


Why should anyone have to shut up about something they think is wrong? Would you have shut up about wanting to leave if remain had won?


We've heard all the arguments for and against over and over again, we've had the referendum and we all know what the outcome was, what more is there to say?


Given that we don't even know what form our exit is going to take (and therefore what exactly the effects are going to be), quite a lot.

David Davis seems to be doing a good job of demonstrating why he was never trusted with a ministerial portfolio before!

The thought has crossed my mind that Theresa May put him, Fox and Johnson in charge of the three departments most responsible for dealing with Brexit in the hope that they would make such an almighty cock-up of it all, that in the end she can turn round and say that going ahead with what they've managed to arrange would be such a disaster that we're better off not doing it.


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People need to start accepting we on the start of the process of going out of the Eu, remain need to shut up


Why should anyone have to shut up about something they think is wrong? Would you have shut up about wanting to leave if remain had won?


We've heard all the arguments for and against over and over again, we've had the referendum and we all know what the outcome was, what more is there to say?

Of course those who desperately wanted to stay in the EU do have the option of emigrating.................bon voyageCool


And in a nutshell, you've summed up the Brexiteers position.

By the way, that's 's not a compliment!



Where's the 'ignore this poster' button?


Isaac
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People need to start accepting we on the start of the process of going out of the Eu, remain need to shut up


Why should anyone have to shut up about something they think is wrong? Would you have shut up about wanting to leave if remain had won?


We've heard all the arguments for and against over and over again, we've had the referendum and we all know what the outcome was, what more is there to say?

Of course those who desperately wanted to stay in the EU do have the option of emigrating.................bon voyageCool


And in a nutshell, you've summed up the Brexiteers position.

By the way, that's 's not a compliment!


And you sound like a typical remoaner, and that's not a compliment either.

What would you like, another referendum? Best of three perhaps? Or endless reruns until you get the result that you want?Crazy


Richard Rundle
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People need to start accepting we on the start of the process of going out of the Eu, remain need to shut up


That's not how democracy works. As someone who voted remain, I accept the result of the referendum and that we are going to leave the EU.

However, I still view it as the probably the worst decision the country will make in my lifetime and that the 48% who voted remain can still have a voice. We have a tradition of free speech in this country and a healthy opposition to any government in power at the time is a bedrock of our democracy.


jon b
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People need to start accepting we on the start of the process of going out of the Eu, remain need to shut up


All the Remainers I know have accepted that we're leaving the EU and have no desire for another Godawful referendum campaign despite the narrowness by which they lost to Leave's 51.9% of the vote.

Everyone's hoping that Mrs M and the three Brexiteers can come up with a good exit deal, but if they end up with one that's brown and smelly, people will point it out.


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In General Elections and even local elections I suspect that remainers are more likely to vote in future than leavers. In my circle of family, friends and associates it is certainly the case probably at a 3 to 1 ratio.


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There are some who think we should indeed leave the WTO, NATO and the UN.

I'm not sure about leaving these - maybe the UN is 'a glorified talking shop' as a commentator stated on TV some time ago (may have been Peter Hitchens but not 100% sure), but the alternative to protection is vulnerability.


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People need to start accepting we on the start of the process of going out of the Eu, remain need to shut up


Why should anyone have to shut up about something they think is wrong? Would you have shut up about wanting to leave if remain had won?


We've heard all the arguments for and against over and over again, we've had the referendum and we all know what the outcome was, what more is there to say?

Of course those who desperately wanted to stay in the EU do have the option of emigrating.................bon voyageCool


And in a nutshell, you've summed up the Brexiteers position.

By the way, that's 's not a compliment!


And you sound like a typical remoaner, and that's not a compliment either.

What would you like, another referendum? Best of three perhaps? Or endless reruns until you get the result that you want?Crazy


Sorry to disappoint you Captain Mainwaring but my position echoes the posts of Richard Rundle and jonb. The Brexiters have won and we all have to live with the consequences whatever they might be. I just wish the 'winners' wouldn't be quite as gleeful as a lot of them are until the consequences of their actions become clearer. If all works out well, I'll be the first to put my hands up and admit I was wrong and I hope that's the case. I trust that you will do likewise if it doesn't go well......



Where's the 'ignore this poster' button?


PaulC
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What would you like, another referendum? Best of three perhaps? Or endless reruns until you get the result that you want?Crazy


We are leaving.

There seem to be those, however, who think

those who believe Brexit will be a disaster,

who believe many of the Brexiteers did not have a clue what they were unleashing on this country,

who believe this Government has no plan whatsoever

and who believe we are being led into this oblivion by a Government which has abrogated its duties by dragging us out of the EU when it told us such actions would damage this country

...should just keep quiet.


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There are some who think we should indeed leave the WTO, NATO and the UN.

I'm not sure about leaving these - maybe the UN is 'a glorified talking shop' as a commentator stated on TV some time ago (may have been Peter Hitchens but not 100% sure), but the alternative to protection is vulnerability.




What about FIFA, that is far more corrupt than the EU, although admittedly less expensive.Smile


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I wouldn't object to leaving FIFA - it's had enough chances to change, but won't.


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Whilst true, there are also those who think

* those who believe Brexit will benefit the UK in the long term
* those who knew what they were voting for when they voted Leave
* those that trust the Government, as elected officials, to do the job of delivering Brexit (Hard or Soft)
* those that are against the EU despite its many problems and issues which it cannot or will not solve for fear of offending people

should also just keep quiet.

TL:DR - there are bad eggs on both sides.


(This post was edited by MrTangerineMan on Mar 23, 2017, 5:31 PM)


MrTangerineMan
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This might be of interest to some, just seen on the Hellenic League website:

'Brexit TV Show Looking For A Leave Family - 23 March

RDF Television are currently making a new one-off programme with the working title of Wife Swap: Brexit Special, and are looking for a family to take part.

They have contacted the Hellenic League, to see if anyone would be interested in getting involved. They are specifically looking for a confident and passionate family to be a part of the programme as ambassadors for the 'leave' side of the debate.

They hope to film between 22-28 April. It's based on an old format that swapped the wives of two families to explore their dynamics. Molly Garfoot of RDF Television explains, "We want to do the same, but this time it's not about who does the washing up and more about how a family decided which way they voted in the referendum and why. This programme is giving two ordinary British families, from either side of the debate, the opportunity to share their opinions on the issue."

If anybody is interested in speaking further, the researcher on the team Lawrence can be reached via email, lawrence.davey@rdftelevision.com<mailto:lawrence.davey@rdftelevision.com> or on 0207 013 4091. This would just be for a research chat, with no obligation to take part.'


Part-Timer
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Is it just me or is the Hellenic League not a rather strange choice of organisation to contact to find such a couple?


MrTangerineMan
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Does seem a little strange, but there we go.

I wonder if any of the other leagues will be contacted by RDF or similar companies for programmes.

NWCFL for 'Nudist Trainspotters at Crewe' special perhaps?


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'Brexit TV Show Looking For A Leave Family - 23 March

RDF Television are currently making a new one-off programme with the working title of Wife Swap: Brexit Special, and are looking for a family to take part.

They have contacted the Hellenic League, to see if anyone would be interested in getting involved. They are specifically looking for a confident and passionate family to be a part of the programme as ambassadors for the 'leave' side of the debate.


Thanks for the warning.

My recollection of the few times I've been forced to endure TV's "Wife Swap" is that the format consists of two families each marvelling at the utter stupidity of the other. An empathy free zone as they loudly slag each other off.

Perhaps they could get Mrs Clegg to swap with whoever happens to be Mrs Farage at the time.


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More likely to get Mrs. Compo or Mrs. Foggy Wink


jon b
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No, definitely Mrs Clegg, just because she hates being called it. Cool

And me a Lib Demů Tongue


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Is it just me or is the Hellenic League not a rather strange choice of organisation to contact to find such a couple?


Seems Greek to me. Though the thought of Nude Trainspotters at Crewe is a harrowing thought.


Isaac
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People need to start accepting we on the start of the process of going out of the Eu, remain need to shut up


Why should anyone have to shut up about something they think is wrong? Would you have shut up about wanting to leave if remain had won?


We've heard all the arguments for and against over and over again, we've had the referendum and we all know what the outcome was, what more is there to say?

Of course those who desperately wanted to stay in the EU do have the option of emigrating.................bon voyageCool


And in a nutshell, you've summed up the Brexiteers position.

By the way, that's 's not a compliment!


And you sound like a typical remoaner, and that's not a compliment either.

What would you like, another referendum? Best of three perhaps? Or endless reruns until you get the result that you want?Crazy


Sorry to disappoint you Captain Mainwaring but my position echoes the posts of Richard Rundle and jonb. The Brexiters have won and we all have to live with the consequences whatever they might be. I just wish the 'winners' wouldn't be quite as gleeful as a lot of them are until the consequences of their actions become clearer. If all works out well, I'll be the first to put my hands up and admit I was wrong and I hope that's the case. I trust that you will do likewise if it doesn't go well......


I can't say I've noticed any inordinate amount of 'glee', just people who want to get on with implementing what was voted for.


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MrTangerineMan
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Platform 11 tomorrow from 9:30

Bring weak lemon tea and ask for 'Norm'.


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I can't say I've noticed any inordinate amount of 'glee', just people who want to get on with implementing what was voted for.

People who voted to leave didn't all do so for the same reasons

So chances are whatever deal is negotiated won't please all brexiters and some are going to wish they'd voted to remain



Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're not out to get you.


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I am also sure that many Remainers wanted to stay in for different reasons.
Quite possibly some of those may have changed sides considering the whinging
by the remainers.




Get over it, we are out.



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