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I'm suspicious that these few months that Blatter has left, will be him making sure all incriminating evidence that leads to him will disappear.


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Irish football chap nows says Blatter was eyeing up his girlfriend when the discussions were going on about the Henry handball Said at one point I think we better move on


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Irish football chap nows says Blatter was eyeing up his girlfriend when the discussions were going on about the Henry handball Said at one point I think we better move on

Why did he take his girlfriend to meeting with Sepp Blatter? Do any of these people live in the same world as the rest of us.?


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Just heard it on Sky News The amount was meant to be confidential but the interviewer gave the amount out

And the Beeb have done the same thing.

And so have FIFA. Presumably they weren't bound by the confidentiality cause in the agreement.


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Chuck Blazer's has stated that the ROI were bunged 5mil Euro's, so they wouldn't proceed with with a legal case. Over the infamous Thierry Henry handball/goal.

Interesting. FIFA were sufficiently concerned about a potential legal challenge to a refereeing error that they were prepared to settle out of court. That suggests to me that such challenges can't be dismissed with ease by the legal bods. We could struggle to get any tournaments completed if that is the case. They would do well to get on with rewriting the rules to ensure that challenges of that nature can't get any traction.


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Chuck Blazer's has stated that the ROI were bunged 5mil Euro's, so they wouldn't proceed with with a legal case. Over the infamous Thierry Henry handball/goal.

Interesting. FIFA were sufficiently concerned about a potential legal challenge to a refereeing error that they were prepared to settle out of court. That suggests to me that such challenges can't be dismissed with ease by the legal bods. We could struggle to get any tournaments completed if that is the case. They would do well to get on with rewriting the rules to ensure that challenges of that nature can't get any traction.

Surely this makes ROI just as bad as the rest of them (provided of course they accepted the money)


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Well good luck in convincing the U.S. authorities that an out of court settlement constitutes corruption. Happens all the time, but especially in corporate America. All perfectly legal.


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Chuck Blazer's has stated that the ROI were bunged 5mil Euro's, so they wouldn't proceed with with a legal case. Over the infamous Thierry Henry handball/goal.

Interesting. FIFA were sufficiently concerned about a potential legal challenge to a refereeing error that they were prepared to settle out of court. That suggests to me that such challenges can't be dismissed with ease by the legal bods. We could struggle to get any tournaments completed if that is the case. They would do well to get on with rewriting the rules to ensure that challenges of that nature can't get any traction.

Surely this makes ROI just as bad as the rest of them (provided of course they accepted the money)

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Chuck Blazer's has stated that the ROI were bunged 5mil Euro's, so they wouldn't proceed with with a legal case. Over the infamous Thierry Henry handball/goal.

Interesting. FIFA were sufficiently concerned about a potential legal challenge to a refereeing error that they were prepared to settle out of court. That suggests to me that such challenges can't be dismissed with ease by the legal bods. We could struggle to get any tournaments completed if that is the case. They would do well to get on with rewriting the rules to ensure that challenges of that nature can't get any traction.


Is it too late for the FA to put in a claim to Blatter for the "Hand of God"?


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Well good luck in convincing the U.S. authorities that an out of court settlement constitutes corruption. Happens all the time, but especially in corporate America. All perfectly legal.



While probably fully legal, I think it's a dangerous road taken to "reimburse" a country for a refereeing mistake.

FIFA might as well start dishing out near miss payments to all countries that narrowly misses qualification because most of them will be able to find refereeing decisions that went against them at crucial times, obviously less grave than Henry's handball.


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Chuck Blazer's has stated that the ROI were bunged 5mil Euro's, so they wouldn't proceed with with a legal case. Over the infamous Thierry Henry handball/goal.

Interesting. FIFA were sufficiently concerned about a potential legal challenge to a refereeing error that they were prepared to settle out of court. That suggests to me that such challenges can't be dismissed with ease by the legal bods. We could struggle to get any tournaments completed if that is the case. They would do well to get on with rewriting the rules to ensure that challenges of that nature can't get any traction.


Is it too late for the FA to put in a claim to Blatter for the "Hand of God"?


I believe the German FA is looking into a 49 year old case... Tongue


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Well good luck in convincing the U.S. authorities that an out of court settlement constitutes corruption. Happens all the time, but especially in corporate America. All perfectly legal.



While probably fully legal, I think it's a dangerous road taken to "reimburse" a country for a refereeing mistake.

FIFA might as well start dishing out near miss payments to all countries that narrowly misses qualification because most of them will be able to find refereeing decisions that went against them at crucial times, obviously less grave than Henry's handball.


That depends on the legal merits of the case in question. The Irish clearly had a case, or an out of court settlement wouldn't have arisen. The dangerous road isn't the making of an out of court settlement, it's that refereeing mistakes would appear to be legitimately open to legal challenge.

And as for the rubbish spouted by the Telegraph, what would they have done? Proceeded with a legal challenge? Whose best outcome would have been...to award the Irish FA cash damages!


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FIFA are saying that Sepp Blatter won't be attending the IOC meeting in Lausanne next week. He is FIFA's representative to the IOC.



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Well good luck in convincing the U.S. authorities that an out of court settlement constitutes corruption. Happens all the time, but especially in corporate America. All perfectly legal.



While probably fully legal, I think it's a dangerous road taken to "reimburse" a country for a refereeing mistake.

FIFA might as well start dishing out near miss payments to all countries that narrowly misses qualification because most of them will be able to find refereeing decisions that went against them at crucial times, obviously less grave than Henry's handball.


That depends on the legal merits of the case in question. The Irish clearly had a case, or an out of court settlement wouldn't have arisen. The dangerous road isn't the making of an out of court settlement, it's that refereeing mistakes would appear to be legitimately open to legal challenge.

And as for the rubbish spouted by the Telegraph, what would they have done? Proceeded with a legal challenge? Whose best outcome would have been...to award the Irish FA cash damages!



We'll never know FIFA's rationale for paying up. But it could be that they never expected Ireland to win a case in court but feared the negative publicity of a court case with the World Cup show about to start. Obviously they thought it was money well spent to avoid it.

Paying paves the way for opportunistic types. Yes, I know the real world is like that.

I can see countries having to sign an agreement that refereeing decisions will not be pursued in a court of law soon. And clubs...


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Well good luck in convincing the U.S. authorities that an out of court settlement constitutes corruption. Happens all the time, but especially in corporate America. All perfectly legal.



While probably fully legal, I think it's a dangerous road taken to "reimburse" a country for a refereeing mistake.

FIFA might as well start dishing out near miss payments to all countries that narrowly misses qualification because most of them will be able to find refereeing decisions that went against them at crucial times, obviously less grave than Henry's handball.


That depends on the legal merits of the case in question. The Irish clearly had a case, or an out of court settlement wouldn't have arisen. The dangerous road isn't the making of an out of court settlement, it's that refereeing mistakes would appear to be legitimately open to legal challenge.

And as for the rubbish spouted by the Telegraph, what would they have done? Proceeded with a legal challenge? Whose best outcome would have been...to award the Irish FA cash damages!



We'll never know FIFA's rationale for paying up. But it could be that they never expected Ireland to win a case in court but feared the negative publicity of a court case with the World Cup show about to start. Obviously they thought it was money well spent to avoid it.

Paying paves the way for opportunistic types. Yes, I know the real world is like that.

I can see countries having to sign an agreement that refereeing decisions will not be pursued in a court of law soon. And clubs...

FIFA are saying they lent FAI $5mil & the FAI says it got a €5mil settlement. A disparity of $2mil or €1.5mil, I wonder what the truth is.



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At least the Irish money has gone on stadium development and football development or that is what is coming out at the moment.

The F.A are now saying what they have given out as gifts in the past, they quote 25 Gucci handbags to delegates wives which they say was permissible by F.I.F.A's rules according to the F.A. A 30k spend on a dinner in Trinidad & Tobago for local football delegates after a England game in said country, this was set up by Jack Warner - evening all. Can see why England won no votes then not enough noughts!.

The Australians are starting to make big noises as they seem to be saying they were sold down the river when they applied and were asked to go forward to a second vote for one of the World Cups (2022?) as they were in with a very good chance of getting it (if they greased a few palms / gave donations) they went forward but did not seem to grease the palms as they got one vote.

A Japanese football official was on the BBC News Channel yesterday, I thought he spoke very well and his views were obviously very considered. His country are very upset at what is going on and he said Blatter should go now. He said Prince Ali would be as good as anyone to head FIFA.

Many are now saying the board must be swept clean at FIFA and a "new" person should be put in charge and old ways must go now.


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I have just arrived in Ireland (Limerick of course for the grand re-opening of Markets Field) ) and the story is dominating the news bulletins amid calls for Delaney to resign. No-one seems quite sure where all the money went and the secrecy about it seems to be causing the most concern.

The official story from both FIFA and the FAI is that the 5 million euros was initially a loan, to be repaid IF Ireland qualified for the 2014 World Cup,which of cpurse they didn't. The loan was then "written off" by FIFA.


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Well good luck in convincing the U.S. authorities that an out of court settlement constitutes corruption. Happens all the time, but especially in corporate America. All perfectly legal.



While probably fully legal, I think it's a dangerous road taken to "reimburse" a country for a refereeing mistake.

FIFA might as well start dishing out near miss payments to all countries that narrowly misses qualification because most of them will be able to find refereeing decisions that went against them at crucial times, obviously less grave than Henry's handball.


That depends on the legal merits of the case in question. The Irish clearly had a case, or an out of court settlement wouldn't have arisen. The dangerous road isn't the making of an out of court settlement, it's that refereeing mistakes would appear to be legitimately open to legal challenge.

And as for the rubbish spouted by the Telegraph, what would they have done? Proceeded with a legal challenge? Whose best outcome would have been...to award the Irish FA cash damages!



We'll never know FIFA's rationale for paying up. But it could be that they never expected Ireland to win a case in court but feared the negative publicity of a court case with the World Cup show about to start. Obviously they thought it was money well spent to avoid it.

Paying paves the way for opportunistic types. Yes, I know the real world is like that.

I can see countries having to sign an agreement that refereeing decisions will not be pursued in a court of law soon. And clubs...

Also, out of court settlements are often used so precedents aren't set.


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According to reports, the 2010 WC which was staged in South Africa. Should've been staged in Morocco, allegedly the votes were rigged because the committee didn't agree with the result!



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The official story from both FIFA and the FAI is that the 5 million euros was initially a loan, to be repaid IF Ireland qualified for the 2014 World Cup,which of cpurse they didn't. The loan was then "written off" by FIFA.

If that is the case one could argue that FIFA bribed Ireland not to qualify for the 2014 World Cup. Another dangerous road to tread.


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The official story from both FIFA and the FAI is that the 5 million euros was initially a loan, to be repaid IF Ireland qualified for the 2014 World Cup,which of cpurse they didn't. The loan was then "written off" by FIFA.

If that is the case one could argue that FIFA bribed Ireland not to qualify for the 2014 World Cup. Another dangerous road to tread.


But that argument would fail on absence of motive and complete absence of logic! The briber loses €5m and the recipient is somehow incentivized to miss out on both the glory and a far greater cash windfall..


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The official story from both FIFA and the FAI is that the 5 million euros was initially a loan, to be repaid IF Ireland qualified for the 2014 World Cup,which of cpurse they didn't. The loan was then "written off" by FIFA.

If that is the case one could argue that FIFA bribed Ireland not to qualify for the 2014 World Cup. Another dangerous road to tread.


But that argument would fail on absence of motive and complete absence of logic! The briber loses €5m and the recipient is somehow incentivized to miss out on the glory and a far greater cash windfall..

It's is no different from the FAI popping down to their local Paddy Power and backing Ireland not to qualify for the World Cup. It is bet hedging. If a club did it their FA would be down on them like a ton of bricks (unless it upset one of their sponsors, of course).


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FIFA - the movie, grosses $697 after its first weekend's showing in the US.

"The Village Voice called it "not merely ham-fisted, but pork-shouldered, bacon-wristed, and sausage-elbowed".
The Guardian added that "as proof of corporate insanity it is a valuable case study."
The movie's budget was estimated at between $25 - $32 million (£16 - £21 million), with Fifa said to have put up about three-quarters of the money."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...inment-arts-33050289


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The official story from both FIFA and the FAI is that the 5 million euros was initially a loan, to be repaid IF Ireland qualified for the 2014 World Cup,which of cpurse they didn't. The loan was then "written off" by FIFA.

If that is the case one could argue that FIFA bribed Ireland not to qualify for the 2014 World Cup. Another dangerous road to tread.


But that argument would fail on absence of motive and complete absence of logic! The briber loses €5m and the recipient is somehow incentivized to miss out on the glory and a far greater cash windfall..

It's is no different from the FAI popping down to their local Paddy Power and backing Ireland not to qualify for the World Cup. It is bet hedging. If a club did it their FA would be down on them like a ton of bricks (unless it upset one of their sponsors, of course).


There's nothing illegal or dodgy about hedging in itself. Betting is another matter in the sports world but this doesn't have any features of betting attached. There is nothing in this arrangement that incentivised anyone to do anything untoward. It's an out of court settlement, pure and simple.


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FIFA - the movie, grosses $697 after its first weekend's showing in the US.

"The Village Voice called it "not merely ham-fisted, but pork-shouldered, bacon-wristed, and sausage-elbowed".
The Guardian added that "as proof of corporate insanity it is a valuable case study."
The movie's budget was estimated at between $25 - $32 million (£16 - £21 million), with Fifa said to have put up about three-quarters of the money."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...inment-arts-33050289

Who plays the part of Sepp Blatter?




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