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From what Kendal are saying, Ian, it seems 2015-16 will be their last full season at Mint Bridge. If the council has given Sainsbury's the go-ahead to build on Mint Bridge, it seems pretty unlikely it'll knock back the rugby club over Mill Field. Mind you, in 2008, the rugby club got the OK to relocate to Strawberry Fields, off Oxenholme Road, but that was scuppered because the council, the following year, rejected Sainsbury's plans for Mint Bridge. The Kendal RUFC chairman warns there are "still significant hurdles to overcome". Sainsbury's aim to open the Mint Bridge store in 2017.



Ended up revisiting Kendal on Saturday, I can confirm they should be at Mint Bridge for much if not all of 15-16, but grab it whilst you can (and whilst the stand, stands!)


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Ampthill and District have moved from their railed off pitch with a small amount of cover, to a much more basic pitch nearby.
Judging by the state of the old pitch, some rugby is still played there, but not the 1st XV.



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On my way back from the Bradford & Bingley-Ilkley game, I called in at Rudding Lane, the new ground of Harrogate RUFC, to assess progress. It is south of the town centre, a few yards from the junction of Rudding Lane and the A658. The brown 'tourist signs' are now in place on the main road. Have to say, the new place is rather underwhelming. Little more than a railed pitch with an adjacent clubhouse. No hardstanding, no floodlights, no cover. Even the 'sticks' are short! A terrace in front of the clubhouse offers a raised view. Banking at the north end is still bare earth. Harrogate haven't made any official announcement about the timing of the last game at Claro Road and the opener at Rudding Lane. I wouldn't be surprised if Gate see out of the season at the former and start 2015-16 at the latter.


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First game for Harrogate at their new Rudding Park ground will be against National League Two North rivals Luctonians on April 18th (3pm).


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An official announcement has (finally) been made on Harrogate RUFC's website regarding the club's move from Claro Road to Rudding Park, a new ground.

Gate's two outstanding 2014-15 first team home fixtures will be played at neither venue. A Yorkshire Cup semi-final with Wheatley Hills, on April 4th, will be at Wetherby RUFC and the final National League Two North match, against Luctonians on April 18th, will be at Otley RUFC. Both 3pm kick-off.

So, the Rudding Park opener will be at the start of the 2015-16 season. I guess Harrogate may organise a special opening game or it may simply be the first league match. We'll have to see.


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Hereford RUFC's plans to move into a new complex at Hampton Bishop have suffered a set-back, according to a Westfields supporter I was chatting to at the Coleshill Town game on Tuesday, as the lead housing developer has just pulled out of the deal.

Confirmation here:
http://www.herefordtimes.com/...club_scheme/?ref=arc


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I visited Matlock RUFC on 3/10 and flagged up (in WDYG) Cromford Meadows as a possible ground for concern. Worth adding detail - and putting this information in the correct thread.

Matlock, members of Midlands One East (level six), have played at Cromford Meadows since formation in 1928. The first XV pitch, though railed and floodlit, is relatively undeveloped - no cover, no hardstanding. I quote from the Club News section of the match programme: "We are attempting to secure a long-term lease on the Cromford Meadows playing pitches, which will then allow us to obtain grant aid from the RFF. The current situation is that we, as a club, sub-let from Derbyshire County Council education department, on a favour basis. Negotations with the owners of Cromford Meadows, Key Estates, are ongoing but circuitous. We are all hoping the situation can be resolved favourably in the next few months. Once the stability of a long-term lease has been established then the funding sources for a revamped clubhouse, modernised changing rooms etc can be approached with real expectation that things will happen - but not until a long lease is in place."

That, it seems, is the official version. The club photographer told me the new people at the helm of Cromford (Key) Estates are talking about £10,000 annual rent - way beyond the club's limited budget. I suggested it might be a way simply of getting the rugby club off doubtless valuable land, on the fringe of the Peak District National Park, but the photographer felt it unlikely permission would be granted for development of a scenic riverside site. I'd be amazed if it weren't Green Belt. That said, it's likely one of the parties will have to give way if the ground is to survive in its present form.

Public transport users should note Cromford station (on the Matlock branch) is very handy for the rugby ground - can't be more than a 10-minute walk. Not so for the village, mind…


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Whilst watching Luton RU today, I looked at the club noticeboard and saw details of an EGM for later this month to discuss relocation. There were few details other than the fact it had the support of the committee

Luton have only played at the ground 25 years and difficult to see what would be built there as I am sure this is green belt land

Any move does not seem to be imminent


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In the Westcountry's Sunday Independent this week there is a letter from someone at Wells RFC which, in passing, includes the line "We have a ground move to nearby Haybridge in the next 12 to 15 months to look forward to".


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Did Luton issue for the game you went to Mike?
I am planning a trip there this season but probably won't bother if there is no prog. I was under the impression until recently that all clubs at levels 5 and 6 issue, but Wimbledon and Northampton Old Scouts have proved this is not the case.



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There was a prog at Luton, standard RU fare with minimal fresh content but the static pages had interesting club history

You probably knpw but there is a bus to the ground not just from the town but also Hemel


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There was a prog at Luton, standard RU fare with minimal fresh content but the static pages had interesting club history

You probably knpw but there is a bus to the ground not just from the town but also Hemel
Thanks Mike.Hope to get there soon then. I have been to Stockwood Park RUFC for Luton Vipers RL, which is the other side of the park.Will probably walk from Luton station.




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More on Kenilworth which I visited yesterday, these extracts are taken from the programme shell so events may have moved on since they were printed at the start of the season:

From the President:
Off the pitch, it is disappointing to report a further delay to our plans to sell our existing grounds and move to a new complex due to a rejection of the local housing development plan by Government Ministers. It is hoped this will not be a long delay but .......!

From the brief history page:
The club owns the lease on 16 acres of land (affectionately known as 'the Cow Patch' on Glasshouse Lane, remote from the first team pitch and clubhouse. The club was successful in obtaining Lottery money which, together with funds raised by club members, helped create four brand new pitches, one with floodlights, in September 2003. It was always the plan to sell the first XV pitch and clubhouse site and move to this location but it is now almost certain that both of our sites will now be sold and the club is now looking at potential new sites within Kenilworth.


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Old Saltleians RUFC (Midlands 2 West (North)) are apparently going to have to relocate away from their Watton Lane, Water Orton ground, but don't panic to visit it yet awhile - it's going to be obliterated by HS2 and that's presumably still a long way away .... Sly

http://www.oldsaltleians.com/...b-history-30752.html


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Norwich on the move probably in 2017.


http://www.edp24.co.uk/..._developer_1_4322843



Watford FC supporter hence the name also follow Hull FC but rarely get to see either these days.

Have now visited over 800 grounds, progress in recent years has been rather slow and will continue to be as things stand.


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Saw a feature on French club RACING METRO ahead of today's ERC Cup match v Northampton on Sky Sports and learned they are moving to a new 32000 seat indoor arena in two years time which will double as a concert venue. May well be worth hopping over to Paris to tick their old Colombes stadium, which hosted the 1938 world cup final, before then although it may still be used by a lower league football club after that.


As far as I can see, the new arena in Nanterre is still on course for completion in December 2016, but a piece I saw in the British media at the weekend referred to Racing being at Colombes/Yves du Manoir for the whole of next season.

I went myself at the weekend as I didn't want to miss one of the five stadiums to have held both the Olympics and World Cup Final, and also wanted to mention another historic club/stadium interface which I stumbled upon (though not a threatened ground, as far as I'm aware).

On Sunday I was interested in seeing the 1924 Olympic Velodrome in the Bois de Vincennes, and found that P.U.C. (a long-time senior club in pre-professional days) were setting up for a Federale 2 (Level 4) match against Beauvais. I thought I'd mention it as this is a level I'd not myself thought of looking at fixtures for, and is the sort of thing I might only learn of from this forum. I didn't stay for the match on this occasion, as I had a ticket for PSG handball (which was excellent) but will certainly look out for another chance.
I think the picture at the back of http://www.pucrugby.fr/ is a good appetite-whetter, with more here http://www.nogent-citoyen.com/...pal-jacques-anquetil


cherryhopper
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Blackheath have made the decision to play all first team home matches at Well Hall from the start of 2016/17 for financial reasons. This is currently the club's training ground and also, I believe, the home of Askeans RFC. They also plan to play two trial there towards the end of this season so anybody who wants to tick the historic Rectory Field I recommend doing so ASAP as I now plan to do today for the visit of Esher - 3rd v 4th in National League One.
http://blackheathrugby.co.uk/...ve-satement-9-12-15/


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MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT CONCERNING 1ST XV RUGBY AT WELL HALL
(taken from Saturday's programme)

Circumstances at Rectory Field mean we have continually been looking at how we can improve the infrastructure at Blackheath FC in order to give ourselves the financial sustainability and commercial capability that any club needs to ensure, and secure, a successful long term future.

Ongoing dialogue between BFC and BSC has resulted in no indications that the Sports Club would acquiesce to our basic request for all, or a large majority of, the bar takings on match days at Rectory Field. The income is every club's life blood; without it we cannot continue to run as a successful club at National 1, or even Championship - a level to which we aspire. A sizeable majority agreed after the last AGM that we should seek Championship rugby - why else are we playing? If we did get promoted then Rectory Field creates more difficulties because cricket needs it ideally, at the end of April and the first week of September has always been unavailable for the club.

Recent improvements and developments at Well Hall mean we have a viable alternative site which will, with further achievable improvements, meet all NCA and RFU ground requirements. The intransigence of the BSC has made consideration of this move to Well Hall more of a reality - perhaps inevitable - and as a result we plan to trial at least one home game at Well Hall at the end of this season.

If, for some unforeseen reason, Well Hall does not work we still have the Rectory Field which cannot be sold for housing. Regardless of other matters, Rectory Field will still hosts our Men's, Women's and Age Group sides - who knows, if the financial climate changes, the 1st XV could come back in years ahead.

BFC continues to operate at a loss primarily reflecting the loss of donors in 2012/13. Despite our best efforts we have not been able to replace this revenue using the Rectory Field facility.

One underlying constant requirement for all of the sections is that BFC operates profitably and the financial records clearly show this has not been the case and continuing to play first team rugby at Rectory Field will not allow us to achieve the latent profitability needed for the stability of BFC.

Rakesh Chhabra (Treasurer BFC) 11.12.15


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London Welsh and London Scottish are considering joining the Pro-12 possibly for next season. This according to the article in the Rugby Paper would mean a groundshare with a football club. Brentford and Fulham were mentioned.
London Scottish share with Richmond so that ground will definitely see 1st XV rugby next season but London Welsh's nearby Old Deer Park ground may not. The club have only just moved back there after sharing at Oxford United.
Not sure how this would affect qualification for European competitions the following year.



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Blackheath have made the decision to play all first team home matches at Well Hall from the start of 2016/17 for financial reasons. This is currently the club's training ground and also, I believe, the home of Askeans RFC. They also plan to play two trial there towards the end of this season so anybody who wants to tick the historic Rectory Field I recommend doing so ASAP as I now plan to do today for the visit of Esher - 3rd v 4th in National League One.
http://blackheathrugby.co.uk/...ve-satement-9-12-15/


This is that same pitch that was once home to Thames Polytechnic FC in the Kent League and the same stand, albeit spruced up a bit, is still there.


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Did Luton issue for the game you went to Mike?
I am planning a trip there this season but probably won't bother if there is no prog. I was under the impression until recently that all clubs at levels 5 and 6 issue, but Wimbledon and Northampton Old Scouts have proved this is not the case.

Add Market Rasen & Louth (Midlands One East) and Syston (National League Three Midlands) to the list of levels five and six non-issuers.


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Blackheath have made the decision to play all first team home matches at Well Hall from the start of 2016/17 for financial reasons. This is currently the club's training ground and also, I believe, the home of Askeans RFC. They also plan to play two trial there towards the end of this season so anybody who wants to tick the historic Rectory Field I recommend doing so ASAP as I now plan to do today for the visit of Esher - 3rd v 4th in National League One.
http://blackheathrugby.co.uk/...ve-satement-9-12-15/

I've been in touch with Blackheath and they say NO trial games will be staged at Well Hall before the end of the season. There isn't, they explain, any point because stands at Well Hall are to be erected during the summer. It means the club's three remaining home league matches - Hull Ionians (April 2), Coventry (April 16) and Blaydon (April 30) - will all take place at Rectory Field.


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Camborne's iconic Recreation Ground is under threat with owners Cornwall County Council refusing to sell the pitch to the club or transfer over the lease to Camborne Town Council. A petition to save the Rec has so far received over 1,000 signatures.
http://www.westbriton.co.uk/...84-detail/story.html
I'm planning to see Camborne clinch the South West One West title at Wells today where I also hope to find out the latest on Wells' own plans to relocate to Haybridge in 2017.


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This Saturday's Dorset & Wilts Division 1 North second place decider between Melksham and Corsham looks set to be Melksham's last match at their Market Place ground, which is behind Melksham Town FC's Conigre ground - both club's moving to the new site east of the town next season. Melksham need a bonus point win in this game to overhaul their visitors and take what should be a promotion place. Photo's of progress on the new rugby ground can be found on their website.
http://www.melkshamrfc.co.uk/...w-ground-642961.html


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Work on an £11m new ground for Kendal begins on Monday (June 20th), reports the Westmorland Gazette. The site, at Mill Field, close to the club's present Mint Bridge home on Shap Road (the A6), will feature state of the art training facilities. Mint Bridge is to become a Sainsbury's store, scheduled to open in 2018.


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