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tigerman48
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Hi Folks,

This may seem a silly question but myself have just started doing non league grounds and we were having a debate the other day being what would we call a ground ie how do you guys count a ground. Does it have to charge entrance or have a stand or what ?

I am not having a go honest we just want to see if there any laid down rules.

Thanks

Ian



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None at all, we all have different rules. Just make it up as you go along.

My rule is simple, if it feels right I count it.



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Must see a game of football played on it.


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Rule No. 1.....There are no rules.

Rule No. 2.....See Rule 1.

There are, however, personal preferences. Not watching a reserve side, not going unless there's a programme, not counting it if the result is 0-0, or if the game is abandoned. It is your choice. Enjoy.



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Don't forget you can only count a ground if the your pie wrapper is signed by someone in the tea bar. Burger napkin in the south.



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Don't forget you can only count a ground if the your pie wrapper is signed by someone in the tea bar. Burger napkin in the south.



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I would say there is only one rule.
A groundhopper is a person who "collects" grounds by watching a game of football on each one.
To watch a game, you should be there from start to end, including extra time if played. (Note, Should, not Must).

For example, different people have different ideas of what to do if they miss the start, maybe due to circumstances beyond their control. This is always a potential problem on long trips.

Some will not go without a programme, or without a pasty crimp or whatever.

Some make detailed accounts of players, goal scorers, even perhaps numbers of corners - others would not be able to tell you the score if you ask 7 days after the game.

I think everyone keeps some sort of record, although I know some that are trying to create records from memory, having not kept them from the start of their football watching. [I am lucky in that from the first time I watched a match and decided this was for me, I actually kept a list of the games seen - although some friendlies were not on the list, and a match at Barking which my grandfather had taken me to some years previously was not recorded]

So talk to other hoppers at games, exchange views on here - make up your own mind and then be true to yourself, (no one else is counting for you, unless you blatantly ask Hoddy to comment). ANd what you decide today does not have to be set in stone - if you are still hopping in a decade or two, you are sure to have changed some of your views



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For me, it's just to set foot on the ground and get a few photos, though I do want to do the 92 by actually going to games.

Being a Wycombe fan pretty much full time, it's not that often I get to go to other games, so I settle for visiting on the way to other games.

Basically, set the rules to what you want, it's your "list" after all



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One rule - have a good time.



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For me

1) Programme used to be something I didn't want. Now if there is one I'll have it, if not I'm not bothered

2) Don't let a bad trip get me down, because there is no such thing. All new grounds are a new experience, whatever happens I learn and move on.

3) Preferences/rules are there to be changed, I don't write them down

4) Planning. Plans are there to be changed, don't make them too far in advance.


What I have said is subject to be voided. I haven't seen a 0-0 in 112 games, when I visit Holker Old Boys it will be 0-0, I'm convinced of it.


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One rule - have a good time.

Seconded!!


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For me, 1) don't count 2) find a decent bacon butty - not usually at the ground.


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Think everyone has there own rules.

My own personal rule to count a ground is that I have to see a competitive game played i.e. league, FA Cup, FA Trophy, FA Vase.

I personally don't count county cups, minor cup competitions, friendlies etc but I know many do.

The most important thing is which ever way you decide to do it is that you have a good and enjoyable time.


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For me, it's just to set foot on the ground and get a few photos, though I do want to do the 92 by actually going to games.

Being a Wycombe fan pretty much full time, it's not that often I get to go to other games, so I settle for visiting on the way to other games.

Basically, set the rules to what you want, it's your "list" after all



While I have nothing against Russ, and he does what he wants to do, I do not think that by just viewing the grounds and taking photos, he is a groundhopper. To me, this is another hobby and shold have another name. I notice Russ also watches games - I am sure he mentioned something in "Where did you go" yesterday



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For me, just seeing some football at some point means it counts. Getting there on time often depends if the beer in the nearest pub is good enough to warrant another before setting off to the ground! Watching the whole game to the end often depends on the weather and the foibles of train and bus timetables.
I don't take it to seriously, I just enjoy it as a day out.


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For me its just simply seeing the first team playing on there home ground, to me seeing a reserve or youth team there just wouldnt count for me, personally it wouldnt feel right but like other people have said just make your own rules and enjoy it and like the post above says having a good day out.



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Yeah, just enjoy!

The reason I count youth & reserve games, womens' matches, whatever, is because I've always watched the Hamlet youth & reserves when I've had the opportunity, & although you must really see a game to count it, I'm not too concerned at missing some of it. Delays getting there, drinking (in my old drinking days!) whatever else. The only thing I hate doing is leaving early. On very rare occasions your team is so poor you just cannot stomach it any more; or have no choice (maybe extra time or pens) & you have to dash to make the last train.

As for colpic's comment-"One rule - have a good time. " Easier said than done, if you support a club side. More often than not watching your own side is a chore, something you do, often questioning why? Having a good time doesn't come into it! ;-)



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Yeah, just enjoy!

The reason I count youth & reserve games, womens' matches, whatever, is because I've always watched the Hamlet youth & reserves when I've had the opportunity, & although you must really see a game to count it, I'm not too concerned at missing some of it. Delays getting there, drinking (in my old drinking days!) whatever else. The only thing I hate doing is leaving early. On very rare occasions your team is so poor you just cannot stomach it any more; or have no choice (maybe extra time or pens) & you have to dash to make the last train.

As for colpic's comment-"One rule - have a good time. " Easier said than done, if you support a club side. More often than not watching your own side is a chore, something you do, often questioning why? Having a good time doesn't come into it! ;-)

Absolutely right, Mishi. Yesterday, Spurs 0 Man. City 0 at my brother-in-law's, torture. Followed by a walk to Wellesley Road for Great Yarmouth Town 0 Norwich United 4, excellent entertainment and thoroughly enjoyable.



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'Neutral' games are always more 'enjoyable' as part of the entertainment is the crowd! Taking off my "Pink 'n' Blue blinkers" which I wear at Dulwich games, it is amusing to hear people scream for offsides, fouls & whatever else, when they are clearly not! So an 'average' game can be more memorable as the game is just 'part of the package'. Going somewhere for the first time this 'package' can include the town itself, the people you chat to (or avoid), the programme, so many things make up a decent trip rather than just the match. It's actually quite rare to see a really awful match, in my humble opinion.

But for me, when 'groundhopping', is actually getting to a new ground. There's nothing much better than the nerveous tingle & buzz you get when you approach a new ground for the first time..



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Had this conversation last week about peoples different rules.
Mine are quite simple i must see at least 45 mins of football to count as a new ground and if a team ground shares then i have to see that team play a home game to count it as a tick even if i have already done the ground with the other ground sharing team. I.E Grays are playing at East Thurrock where i have already been but i need to see Grays play a home game there to class it as a Grays tick.


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Had this conversation last week about peoples different rules.
Mine are quite simple i must see at least 45 mins of football to count as a new ground and if a team ground shares then i have to see that team play a home game to count it as a tick even if i have already done the ground with the other ground sharing team. I.E Grays are playing at East Thurrock where i have already been but i need to see Grays play a home game there to class it as a Grays tick.


My main count is on grounds - I do have a count of teams, but it's incidental. I don't worry about which team I see if a groundshare is in place and the only time I've specifically been back for the other was to complete the 92, I don't regard it as important now. I never intend to go somewhere for less than 80 minutes - I'd be thinking instead to go on a day when I can get back after 90 minutes. I've seen less than 80 a couple of times but it's not been by design. But in the end it's up to you, make your own rules up!



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i have a link on my blog- its a light hearted look at being a ground hopper

http://onion-bag.blogspot.com/...of-groundhopper.html



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Just a noobs point of view but for me I don't see the point in visiting the same ground twice if teams groundshare.

eg Leek Town and Leek CSOB share Harrison Park so It would not matter to me who was at home I've been to the ground and that's it, done.

Also I know the 92 club have this rule that if a club has been relegated out of the league and then promoted again that in order to maintain membership you have to re-visit silly IMHO.


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I've done Leek for Leek Town but I really couldn't care less if I ticked for the owners or tenants. Leek Town/ Leek CSOB has been a long standing arrangement I think? In that case it really does not matter.

I did Wincham Park for a Runcorn Linnets game not a Witton Albion one, still ticked it though


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Hi Folks,

This may seem a silly question but myself have just started doing non league grounds and we were having a debate the other day being what would we call a ground ie how do you guys count a ground. Does it have to charge entrance or have a stand or what ?

I am not having a go honest we just want to see if there any laid down rules.

Thanks

Ian


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