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dottirofhod
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Only the third season of football in the Montenegrin Premier League and we have the third different champions in Mogren of Budva. Beautiful city.........shame about the ground which will have zero chance of staging European Football.


Def no games on the Riviera of Montenegro.
In fact only 3 teams given a U.E.F.A. license , FK Buducnost of Podgorica, FK Sutjeska of Niksic and FK Grbalj of Radanovicki. The rest were refused on Infrastructure/Finance grounds !!




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Only the third season of football in the Montenegrin Premier League and we have the third different champions in Mogren of Budva. Beautiful city.........shame about the ground which will have zero chance of staging European Football.


Def no games on the Riviera of Montenegro.
In fact only 3 teams given a U.E.F.A. license , FK Buducnost of Podgorica, FK Sutjeska of Niksic and FK Grbalj of Radanovicki. The rest were refused on Infrastructure/Finance grounds !!



........and Grbalj must have completely overhauled their ground in the last 2 years. Then it had a stand comprised of loose scaffolding only. Think Holmesdale without the cover..............


dottirofhod
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May 11, 2009, 11:34 PM

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Not sure what happens if you havent a license like Mogren. Says its a club license not ground ?? www.fscg.co.me/20090504464/Vijesti-Savez/uefa-licenca-za-tri-kluba.html




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A club must have a license to play in UEFA competitions.
The license does not have to mean the stadium is up to UEFA standard, as the club can be allowed to play elsewhere



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dottirofhod
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May 12, 2009, 9:30 AM

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Ta Leo. So Mogren if champions cannot play in Europe ?
Kaunas meanwhile, despite not being able to get a professional license in their own country because of Financial/ Corruption (alledgedly) can play in Europe !
Do you know where to find a list of licensed clubs ?




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leohoenig
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Each individual FA works out is own licensing system. Most are subject to appeal, and somehow clubs who qualify for Europe almost always get in on appeal. I have a suspicion the whole thing is a farce.



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buncranaboy
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Not very often these days do we get a Virgin Champion in one of Europe's major leagues. Step forward then Wolfsburg ,now on the brink of winning the Bundesliga after a stunning 5-0 win at Hannover yesterday. Once again all the goals were scored by their on-fire strike pair of Bosnian Edin Dzeko, whose hat-trick makes it 9 goals in 4 games in the run-in for him, and Brazilian Grafite whose brace makes it 26 in 24 games for this most journeyman of journeyman strikers who at the age of 30 is having the season of his life. Dzeko is currently top scorer in European World Cup qualifying and is reported to be interesting Chelsea among others; his Bosnian side have become the dangerous floaters that no-one wants in their group..............
Wolfsburg sit two points ahead (and many goals ahead) of Bayern and Stuttgart who meet at the Allianz Arena in next weekends final matches, while the VW works club in reality need just a point at home to Werder Bremen - who of course have eyes elsewhere - to clinch the title. It would complete a remarkable change of fortune for manager Felix Magath, not long ago sacked as Bayern boss who has surprised many by already declaring that he will leave Wolfsburg in the summer to take the reins at Schalke......................


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It would complete a remarkable change of fortune for manager Felix Magath, not long ago sacked as Bayern boss who has surprised many by already declaring that he will leave Wolfsburg in the summer to take the reins at Schalke......................


Perhaps Wolfsburg could bring back the appropriately-named Wolfgang Wolf for a second spell in charge.


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May 18, 2009, 1:25 PM

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Wolfgang Wolf was last seen at Kingswood on Saturday.



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buncranaboy
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Done and dusted. In style. Wolfsburg thrashed Werder Bremen, to no-one's great surprise, by 5-1 to win the Bundesliga. Bayern were two points back after beating Stuttgart 2-1
Wolfsburg are real surprise winners - although performing solidly over the past decade, this came from out of the blue. As did Grafite's 28 goals in 25 league games - the only man to keep pace in the scoring charts was his team mate Dzeko who ended up with 26 and who looks like a young Shevchenko.

The manager's already jumped ship. I wonder how many of the team will be around for their Champions League campaign !

Anyone likely in the next 30 years to become Virgin champions in England ?


dottirofhod
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Done

Anyone likely in the next 30 years to become Virgin champions in England ?

Possibly.




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Done and dusted. In style. Wolfsburg thrashed Werder Bremen, to no-one's great surprise, by 5-1 to win the Bundesliga. Bayern were two points back after beating Stuttgart 2-1
Wolfsburg are real surprise winners - although performing solidly over the past decade, this came from out of the blue. As did Grafite's 28 goals in 25 league games - the only man to keep pace in the scoring charts was his team mate Dzeko who ended up with 26 and who looks like a young Shevchenko.

The manager's already jumped ship. I wonder how many of the team will be around for their Champions League campaign !

Anyone likely in the next 30 years to become Virgin champions in England ?


Maybe if Richard Branson buys a club


buncranaboy
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Possibly the crucial game in the Romanian title race went the way of Dan Petrescu's Unirea Urziceni when they beat leaders Dinamo Bucharest 1-0 to go one point ahead with two matches remaining. They have only been in the top division since 2006 and would replace CFR Cluj as Virgin Romanian champions. Next weekends penultimate game seen Unirea away at Timisoara, 5 points back with still a slim chance of winning the crown themselves........

Sivasspor find themselves 2 points behind Besiktas going into the last round of games. Besiktas go to Denizlispor who need a point to be safe; Sivasspor go to Galatasaray (who are way off the pace but into the Europa League in any event) needing to make up a 2-goal deficit on Besiktas. Will Gala assist their city neighbours by going flat out against Sivasspor ?? Failure to win could cost Sivasspor their Champions League berth for a second year running with Trabzonspor only a point adrift of them..............


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No Virgin championship for Sivasspor in Turkey. For the second year running they blew it at the death, going down 2-1 to Galatasaray. Even a win wouldn't have sufficed with Besiktas winning at Denizlispor.

There is however a first-timer in Macedonia with Skopje outfit FK Makedonija Gjorce Petrov coming 6 points ahead of Milano Kumanovo and 7 clear of Renova Dzepciste - both of whom have yet to taste title success.

Likewise in Romania where it's success for Dan Petrescu's Unirea Urziceni. They won 2-1 at 3rd placed Timisoara while Dinamo Bucharest lost miserably 2-0 at home to Brasov. 4 clear with a game to play,they won't however be allowed to play CL games at their 7,000 capacity stadium as it does not meet UEFA requirements; the population of Urziceni is only 17,000 and it lies to the east of Bucharest so home CL games are currently scheduled for Steaua's ground.


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It's early days in the new season for continental Europe but there are table-toppers in at least 3 countries who would be Virgin Champions were they to hold on. Most convincing so far are Portugal's Sporting Braga who have won 7 out of 7 and lead the usual suspects by 5 points. Tighter in Germany who had virgin champions only last year where nearly-men Bayer Leverkusen lead Hamburg on goal difference with the rest at least 4 points back. Finally in Holland, good to see Steve McLaren still has the midas touch as his FC Twente have won seven and drawn 2 leaving them 2 points ahead of PSV.


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The Chinese Super League is very close, with just two rounds to play.
Beijing Guo'an 45 points (GD 15)
Henan Jianye 45 pts (10)
Changchun Yatai 44 (4)
Tianjin Teda 42 (7)
Shangdong Luneng Taishan 42 (4)
Shanghai Shenhua 41 (9)

Beijing, Henan and Tianjin have not won the league although prior to the professional era, Beijing won titles on 5 occasions, and Tianjin once.

Shangdong are the holders, and also won in 2006 and 1999, Changchun won in 2007, while Shanghai won in 1995 and 2003
In the professional era, Shenzhen won in 2004, while Dalian have the other 8 titles.

With 5 rounds to play the situation in Japan is
Kawasaki Frontale 52 points (+15)
Kashima Antlers 51 (10)
Gamba Osaka 50 (15)
Shimizu S-Pulse 50 (14)

Kashima Antlers have six titles, all in the professional era
Gamba Osaka won in 2005
Shimizu S-Pulse have never won the title,
Kawasaki Verdy won the first two professional titles (93 and 94) and their predecessors, Yomiuri won the last two old titles (and 3 earlier ones), but as the club is called Verdy, I assume this is now Tokyo Verdy, and not Frontale (who I think play in light and dark blue)

Jeonbuk Motors lead the Korean League with 50 points (+22) and a game in hand over
FC Seoul 49 (+19) and Pohang Steelers 47 (+20).
The league has two rounds to play.

The Steelers have won 4 titles, the last in 2007 (formerly POSCO Atoms).
FC Seoul have not won under that name, but they were previously ANyang (3 titles)
Jeonbuk have never won the Korean title, but they have won the Asian title.

A North Korea official refused to give a statement on the structure of the North Korea League during the national teams recent tour to France.

Singapore Armed Forces have retained the S-League title. It is their 11th title, and fourth in a row.
Selangor have won the Malaysian Super League. It is their 5th title, but the first since 2000.

I expect Muang Thong, promoted at the end of last season, to have won the Thai League at the first attempt, but I do not have today's result. They started the day three points and 7 goals better off than 2007 champions Chonburi. It will be the fifth different winner of the league in five seasons, all virgin champions.



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The Chinese Super League is very close, with just two rounds to play.
Beijing Guo'an 45 points (GD 15)
Henan Jianye 45 pts (10)
Changchun Yatai 44 (4)
Tianjin Teda 42 (7)
Shangdong Luneng Taishan 42 (4)
Shanghai Shenhua 41 (9)

Beijing, Henan and Tianjin have not won the league although prior to the professional era, Beijing won titles on 5 occasions, and Tianjin once.

Shangdong are the holders, and also won in 2006 and 1999, Changchun won in 2007, while Shanghai won in 1995 and 2003
In the professional era, Shenzhen won in 2004, while Dalian have the other 8 titles. Beihing Gouan won their final two matches and took the title, Changchun were second after Henan lost on the final day.

With 5 rounds to play the situation in Japan is
Kawasaki Frontale 52 points (+15)
Kashima Antlers 51 (10)
Gamba Osaka 50 (15)
Shimizu S-Pulse 50 (14)

Kashima Antlers have six titles, all in the professional era
Gamba Osaka won in 2005
Shimizu S-Pulse have never won the title,
Kawasaki Verdy won the first two professional titles (93 and 94) and their predecessors, Yomiuri won the last two old titles (and 3 earlier ones), but as the club is called Verdy, I assume this is now Tokyo Verdy, and not Frontale (who I think play in light and dark blue) Kawasaki Frontale stay a point ahead, with three rounds before the December finale to the league.

Jeonbuk Motors lead the Korean League with 50 points (+22) and a game in hand over
FC Seoul 49 (+19) and Pohang Steelers 47 (+20).
The league has two rounds to play.

The Steelers have won 4 titles, the last in 2007 (formerly POSCO Atoms).
FC Seoul have not won under that name, but they were previously ANyang (3 titles)
Jeonbuk have never won the Korean title, but they have won the Asian title. While Pohang won the Asian Championship, Jeonbuk hold on to the league title, although I think there is a play off series for the ultimate title.

A North Korea official refused to give a statement on the structure of the North Korea League during the national teams recent tour to France.

Singapore Armed Forces have retained the S-League title. It is their 11th title, and fourth in a row.
Selangor have won the Malaysian Super League. It is their 5th title, but the first since 2000. The prestigous Malaysia Cup was won by Negri Sembilan, who beat Kelantan in the final - the final featured some drastic efforts by Kelantan fans to cross the country as the North Eastern state had been troubled by recent floods, which have stopped all rail travel. Despite the Bukit Jalil stadium being quite close to Negri Sembilan, reports say that up to 80% of the crowd (I have seen 65,000 and 100,000 given as the figure - but I struggle to believe the crowd will have exceeded 87,000 - which is the stadium capacity). The Kelantan FA may be fined for their fans damaging seats and throwing missile and smoke bombs onto the pitch. Negri Sembilan won the cup for the first time since 1948. Kelantan, who also lost the Malaysia FA Cup final this season have never won a major title

I expect Muang Thong, promoted at the end of last season, to have won the Thai League at the first attempt, but I do not have today's result. They started the day three points and 7 goals better off than 2007 champions Chonburi. It will be the fifth different winner of the league in five seasons, all virgin champions. The final day say Muang Thong beat BEC Tero 2-0 to take the title.




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A North Korea official refused to give a statement on the structure of the North Korea League during the national teams recent tour to France.


Some information on the North Korean League can be found here... but not much...

http://www.rsssf.com/tablesn/nkor09.html



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These Argentine seasons don't half come around quick and the current Apertura is already approaching the run-in, with five rounds left to play. I can't help noticing that Club Atletico Banfield remain in top place, albeit only on goal difference from Newell's Old Boys who have a cupboard full of championship trophies. Banfield's best ever top division finish was second in 1951 and again in 2005's Clausura.


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With 5 rounds to play the situation in Japan is
Kawasaki Frontale 52 points (+15)
Kashima Antlers 51 (10)
Gamba Osaka 50 (15)
Shimizu S-Pulse 50 (14)

Kashima Antlers have six titles, all in the professional era
Gamba Osaka won in 2005
Shimizu S-Pulse have never won the title,
Kawasaki Verdy won the first two professional titles (93 and 94) and their predecessors, Yomiuri won the last two old titles (and 3 earlier ones), but as the club is called Verdy, I assume this is now Tokyo Verdy, and not Frontale (who I think play in light and dark blue) Kawasaki Frontale stay a point ahead, with three rounds before the December finale to the league.




On 22 November, Kawasaki lost 1-0 at Oita, and despite winning the last two games, 1-0 v Albirex Niigata and 3-2 at Kashiwa Reysol, the title returns to Kashima, who won all of the final three game



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Almost there now in Argentina in the Apertura 2009. Several clubs have finished their fixtures. Others have one or two more games to play. Club Atletico Banfield are two points clear at the top with two to play. Only Newell's Old Boys (two points behind with two to play) or Velez Sarsfield (five points behind with two to play) can now deprive them of their virgin championship. Banfield could clinch it tomorrow evening when they play bottom-placed Tigre at home, depending upon the outcome of Newell's game tonight at Gimnasia la Plata.


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It turns out that both Argentine games were last night (because of the time difference, Banfield's game was listed as 10 Dec, but actually kicked off at a quarter past midnight UK time). Banfield beat Tigre 1-0 and Newell's won 2-0 at Gimnasia. So it goes to the last day - with Banfield having played 18, 41 points and Newell's played 18, 39 points. Banfield are away at Boca Juniors this weekend, whilst Newell's play San Lorenzo at home.


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so is a draw good enough for banfield or is there a play-off system?

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If they finish level it goes to a play off on a neutral ground. Goal difference in Argentina does not count. Estudientes won such a play off a few years ago lead by Sebastian Veron.

I lived in Argentina for three years and saw some excellent games and visited over 30 of the grounds, it is like stepping back to the 70's.

Was lucky enough to see NOB in the game they won their last championship in, they lost 0-2 at Independiente but other results went their way. It was so hot the police hosed down the crowd during most of the game. The two clubs fans are very friendly and the whole stadium celebrated when the final whistle went. Banfield have gone close a few years ago and it's great if a new team wins. Lanus won for the first time a couple of years ago and then faded back to mid table.



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thanks for that info and yes i agree that new champions is really great ; it lets another set of supporters
enjoy that special moment

i fell in love with argentine football many years ago when i lived in s america and was lucky enough to see games broadcast live every week


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